I don't know if this is relevant to the discussion, by LFN has been around for many years and has always been touted as "low foam". (An old timer/pro told students at Ryerson in Toronto in the late '70's that "LFN" stood for "Low Foam Non-ionic". He thought it was great stuff in film developers.) Given problems with bubbles and foam in cartridges, that might be a helpful property, assuming it works in inks the way it works in developer. Yes, some well-respected photographers recommended using it in the developer too, to cut down on foam. It was supposed to be "non-ionic" has hence not affect the chemical action of the developer. It did seem to help with Kodak HC110, but other wetting agents might have worked, too. I never tried any others in the developer, although photo students were often warned to be careful to rinse all the PhotoFlo off the reels before loading another batch of film. Myron On 09 Jan, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Paul Jones wrote: > If you're looking for another wetting agent > (surfactant) There is one made by Edwal > called LFN. You can find it on line. However, > I've not used it for this application. > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 5:58 PM, the_des_bois wrote: > > > I've tried mixing 50-50 bio dishwasher rinse agents: > > > > Nature Clean and Ecover. > > > > I'm not sure if it did better than Photoflo having never tested > > Photoflo 200. > > > > Maybe Photoflo 600 would work better (toxic it is) ? > > > > But now with Eboni-6 reportedly working very fine on the R1800 I see > > no reason to try playing with exotic wetting agents. Even less so > with > > dishwasher products. ;-) > > > > See Paul's latest work: > > > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6-1800.pdf > > > > Denis > > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" > > <scott_now_coming@...> wrote: > >> > >> "I've abandonned for the time being trying to find a strong enough > >> surfacant for C-6 in the R1800. I'm all out of Eboni... ;-)" > >> > >> Would you mind telling us what surfacants you,ve tried? I'm > >> looking for > >> one myself because I can't find Photo-Flo 200 locally. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Scott > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Quick question about UTBO (R1800)
2008-09-09 by Myron Gochnauer
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