Hi all, I recently replaced my 2100/UT3D setup for a 3800/UltraChrome one. Obtaining a neutral QTR curve for a given paper with the UT3D inks was pretty straightforward. However it appears a bit more tricky with the UltraChrome inks. So, I would appreciate some guidance. I've extensively looked at the UC curves supplied with QTR and the basic recipe seems obvious to me: 1) create a warm curve using MK, LK and LLK 2) add some C and LC as toner 1 curve (use ink limits for coarse adjustments) 3) add some M and LM as toner 2 curve (use ink limits for coarse adjustments) 4) micro-adjust the toner 1 and toner 2 using the curve point feature. 5) linearize However, the following is not fully clear to me: - First, there have been several threads in the past on defining a "neutral curve". I took from that that it is common sense to strive for fractional Lab a and Lab b values up till 50% density and from there on bring the tone smoothly to paper white. So, here I am with my draft curve adhering to the guideline above, at least that's what my spectro tells me. But visual inspection still shows some color cast in some areas. My assumption is that this is because the Lab a and Lab b are very small indeed, but fluctuate a bit around zero, leading to one color hue in one area and another one in another area. Perhaps a humans eye is still very sensitive for these local variations. As a matter of fact, I do have a draft cuve with higher Lab a values that actually subjectively does look more neutral than the objective "best" curve. So perhaps I should consider to allow for a tiny overall, identical, color cast to avoid the fluctuation around zero. Does this make sense? - Do I assume correctly that one FIRST brings Lab b to (approximately) zero by adding C and LC and only then start adding M and LM to adjust the Lab a value (since magenta is predominantly Lab a)? - It is impossible to add sufficient C and M to neutralize the darkest tones (85-100%). Frankly, I consider to ignore that altogether, my reasoning being that 1) any color hues in these dark tones are virtually invisible anyhow and 2) perhaps Dmax reduces since I'm using ink load capacity for inks that only suboptimally add to Dmax. Am I right? - The curve point feature is a bit of a puzzle to me. I have figured out its general use via the standard curves. First of all, there is apparently a curve fitting algorithm under the hood as often when I change a value on a certain point, one runs the risk that the whole curve is affected. Are there some general guidelines for defining the curve points? - On the curve points, there's another tricky part: if I ONLY use LM (and not M) in a toner curve (density set to 25) I can BOTH increase and decrease the ink load for the LIGHTER tones but for the DARKER tones I can only DECREASE the ink load. If I try to increase it, it decreases nevertheless. My assumption is that the algorithm just assumes there is an M ink as well and tries to increase the load of that non-existing darker ink (and simultanuously reducing the LM ink load). This assumption is confirmed if one adds a M ink. But how to circumvent this odd behaviour if one does not need/want an M ink? Thanks for any light that could be shed on this, Joost
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Best strategy to obtain a neutral curve with Ultrachrome inks?
2008-10-02 by Joost Horsten
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