On the Mac its done by Photoshop (or the print system), on the PC yes I dither in the conversion of 16bit tiff files. Roy On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Michael King <drmrking@...> wrote: > Roy, > > Just so I understand what's going on better, are you dithering when you go > from 16bit to 8bit? > > Txs, > > Mike > > 2008/12/28 Roy Harrington <roy@...> > >> Hi Mike, >> >> I will probably do 16-bit as some point. But I really don't think it will >> make much difference. All the ICC internals are already 16-bit and if you >> have a 16-bit input file all the profile processing is already done in >> 16-bit. >> The downsizing to 8-bit is done as the last step and its basically just >> dithering the output in two stages -- 16 to 8 bit and then 8 to printer >> data. >> >> Roy >> >> On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:35 AM, mrmrking <drmrking@...> wrote: >> > Hi Roy, >> > >> > Do you plan to support 16 bit printing with QTR? >> > >> > 16 bit printing will allow us to use an ICC profile based workflow >> > without losing maybe 5 - 10% of 8 bit tonal values in the conversion >> > to print profile. >> > >> > What I mean by this is that currently when you print with an ICC >> > profile the conversion of a 16 bit image in working profile space to >> > 8 bit image in print profile space, rounds up or down about 5 - 10% >> > of the values, so you lose about 5 – 10% of 8 bit tonal values in the >> > conversion. You can see this by just taking an 8 bit target (0-255) >> > and converting it to the print profile and seeing what values from 0 – >> > 255 you have left after conversion. >> > >> > If we could print the 16bit image this rounding up or down would >> > happen at much higher tonal values, beyond anything that is possibly >> > visible. >> > >> > Epson has released 16 bit drivers on Leopard 10.5 for most of its >> > printers. Windows also now has a 16 bit printing path on XP and Vista >> > (no Epson drivers as yet). >> > >> > I hope we can have 16bit printing support in QTR. >> > >> > Txs, >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] 16 bit printing with QTR ? to improve ICC workflow
2008-12-28 by Roy Harrington
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