QTR-Quadtone RIP

I recently moved from a 2100 on which I had been using QTR successfully for
many years to a 3880 and have had none of the problems using QTR on the
latter.  I did try ABW, but found it more complex and less flexible than the
QTR I was used to.  The only thing I did have to adjust was the balance of
cool to warm curves as I found that the prints were slightly cooler compared
to what I had been getting on the 2100.  So, I am delighted with the 3880
and don't recognise any of the problems you mention.  I use a PC.

Yours,

John

On 20 June 2010 19:48, Ken Lee <kenlee333@...> wrote:

> Perhaps the 3800 doesn't need matte ink for matte paper, but I found
> that on my R2400, using the right ink for the matte paper - and
> adjusting the image while soft-proofing in Photoshop - things work
> splendidly with Epson Enhanced Matte.
>
> On 6/20/2010 10:39 AM, Frank wrote:
> >
> > I just bought a 3880 also. My experience is much like yours. My first
> > prints with QTR on Epson Enhanced Matte had a nice tonal range. Whites
> > were white and blacks were deep black. My problem is in the lower
> > Zones. Areas in shadow were solid black with QTR. Printing the same
> > image via the Epson ABW was much better.
> >
> > For comparison, I looked at an older print I made on an Epson 2200
> > with custom printer profiles. It had better separation than the
> > 3880/QTR print but not as good as the 3880 ABW.
> >
> > I do not have the equipment to measure my own test strips. I am asking
> > for help in improving separation in the shadows.
> >
> > What should my next steps be to get better shadow separation? Ink
> > Limits? Something else?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com <QuadtoneRIP%2540yahoogroups.com>>,
> "Troy" <colorworks@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi folks:
> > >
> > > Just recently purchased an Epson 3880. I'd like to say that I
> > absolutely love Quad Tone Rip. Really, I would. I'll try to keep
> > things factual, as it's not my intention to purposely take a stab at
> > the program.
> > >
> > > I installed the program without a hitch. I tried some Epson enhanced
> > matte paper using the neutral settings, and have to say I wasn't
> > terribly impressed. The Epson advanced black-and-white mode produced a
> > much more realistic result to me, albeit a little low in contrast.
> > >
> > > I went about creating an ICC profile. The first attempt did not
> > work, but my second one did and I had my first ICC black-and-white
> > profile--nice! Great to be able to soft proof a black and white.
> > >
> > > I went to create a second, using the exact same procedure, but the
> > profile would not install by right clicking and choosing "install
> > profile". I then manually placed it into the color folder, but it
> > would not show. I repeated the entire procedure, but QTR refuses to
> > allow me to make any additional ICC profiles.
> > >
> > > I went about trying some various profile combinations using the
> > stock profiles, but each and every time I sent an image to the
> > printer, I got an error message and the program crashed. Don't know if
> > that's a memory issue or what-- I have four gigs of RAM, and a
> > brand-new dual processor CPU. The system is actually state-of-the-art.
> > >
> > > Once I close the error message " do you want to send this report to
> > Microsoft, etc." the print would finish. After using about five or six
> > different profile combinations I came to the conclusion that nothing
> > looked as good as the stock advanced black-and-white mode using the
> > Epson driver. I have to say that I'm super impressed with what Epson
> > has done. It's hard to imagine much improvement. QTR, for me has been
> > nothing but problems. Seems loaded with bugs. (okay, one opinion
> > here!) The rest is factual.
> > >
> > > I would really love to be able to produce some additional ICC
> > profiles. What a great asset to have, but it would seem that QTR is a
> > one-hit wonder! If anyone has suggestions I'm all ears.
> > >
> > > For me, I will concentrate my efforts on the advanced
> > black-and-white mode of the 3880. This is by far the best printer I've
> > ever used for black-and-white. I'm truly amazed. It's actually renewed
> > my interest in black-and-white photography after nearly 20 years.
> > >
> > > Troy
> > >
> >
> >
>
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