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OT - Sprays (was Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Epson 7900 works partially)

2011-03-19 by piezobw

Paul,

As you note, the Piezography Sepia inks do not need anything to make them more stable. It is pure carbon and has great longevity on its own.

But, I think Mark probably is testing examples on both pigment and dye with UV sprays, and if he reads this list can answer with some authority on the subject.

Best,

Jon





--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark <roark.paul@...> wrote:
>
> (Sorry if this is too OT, but the issue was raised here.)
> 
> Jon or others,
> 
> ... Piezography pure Carbon full ink sets are leading the OEMs in longevity
> > for b&w at Aardenburg ...
> >
> I obviously agree with Jon here.  The 100% carbon inksets can easily beat
> the OEM inksets with respect to longevity.
> 
> I briefly looked at the Aardenburg fade tests of Piezo Carbon Sepia.  I
> noticed 2 were with Hahnemuhle papers (Photo Rag 188 and W. Turner).  One of
> those was sprayed and one not.  Yet the results look about equally
> excellent.  (Papers, of course, can make a significant difference in
> results, but ...)
> 
> This brings up an issue about which I've never really seen convincing
> evidence.
> 
> Regarding longevity of 100% carbon inksets only, does using these sprays
> provide any significant   boost to their light-fastness?
> 
> We do have evidence that for the dyes they can make a significant
> difference, and I'm quite sure tests support that UC pigments benefit from
> the spaying.  Other tests I'm aware of appear to show a benefit from sprays
> for the blended B&W inksets.  But I'm focusing just on 100% carbon here.  I
> don't recall any tests that show one way or the other.
> 
> I do think sprays add to abrasion resistance marginally, but they also lower
> dmax.
> 
> I, personally, would be very happy if 100% carbon inksets were lightfast
> enough that those who use them can feel comfortable in NOT using the
> (usually toxic) sprays.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
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>

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