QTR-Quadtone RIP

I'm confused about the profiles.  I assumed i downloaded everything I
needed (and I probably did), but how can I choose the correct ink
since I don't get any ink selection when i set up Quadtone to print? 
I'm sure my problem is that i'm using the wrong profile.

On Sep 19, 2005, at 3:45 PM, frearl1 wrote:

> I'm confused about the profiles.  I assumed i downloaded everything I
> needed (and I probably did), but how can I choose the correct ink
> since I don't get any ink selection when i set up Quadtone to print?
> I'm sure my problem is that i'm using the wrong profile.

I have additional questions about the profiles:

I just installed QTR 2.2c on Mac OS X v10.4.2. ON the disk image, i  
see in /Profiles/InstallScripts a file named "Install-ReadMe.rtf"  
which says:

---
QuadToneRIP 2.2 for Mac OS X

This is a set of generic install scripts for each supported printer.
Simply drag the appropriate install script to your own folder with
profiles.  Double-clicking on the install script will add the printer
and create and install all the curves in the same folder.
---

There's also /Profiles/1270-UT2 and the "Install1270.command" file.

1) "drag the appropriate install script to your own folder with  
profiles" ... What folder is that?

2) double-clicking on the Install1270.command file runs the terminal  
and does something, reports success. Where do the profiles this  
command is supposed to be installing go?

thanks
Godfrey

On Sep 19, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> I have additional questions about the profiles:
>
> I just installed QTR 2.2c on Mac OS X v10.4.2. ON the disk image, i
> see in /Profiles/InstallScripts a file named "Install-ReadMe.rtf"
> which says:
>
> ---
> QuadToneRIP 2.2 for Mac OS X
>
> This is a set of generic install scripts for each supported printer.
> Simply drag the appropriate install script to your own folder with
> profiles.  Double-clicking on the install script will add the printer
> and create and install all the curves in the same folder.
> ---
>
> There's also /Profiles/1270-UT2 and the "Install1270.command" file.
>
> 1) "drag the appropriate install script to your own folder with
> profiles" ... What folder is that?
>
> 2) double-clicking on the Install1270.command file runs the terminal
> and does something, reports success. Where do the profiles this
> command is supposed to be installing go?

Ulp. sorry, hit send too fast.

And thirdly, is there any documentation about how and when to use  
which profile, blend curve, etc? I've been experimenting with the  
color tone shifts but most of the options seem to produce color which  
are very close.

Godfrey

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Godfrey DiGiorgi <ramarren@m...> wrote:
> 
> On Sep 19, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
> > I have additional questions about the profiles:
> >
> > I just installed QTR 2.2c on Mac OS X v10.4.2. ON the disk image, i
> > see in /Profiles/InstallScripts a file named "Install-ReadMe.rtf"
> > which says:
> >
> > ---
> > QuadToneRIP 2.2 for Mac OS X
> >
> > This is a set of generic install scripts for each supported printer.
> > Simply drag the appropriate install script to your own folder with
> > profiles.  Double-clicking on the install script will add the printer
> > and create and install all the curves in the same folder.
> > ---
> >
> > There's also /Profiles/1270-UT2 and the "Install1270.command" file.
> >
> > 1) "drag the appropriate install script to your own folder with
> > profiles" ... What folder is that?
> >
> > 2) double-clicking on the Install1270.command file runs the terminal
> > and does something, reports success. Where do the profiles this
> > command is supposed to be installing go?
> 
> Ulp. sorry, hit send too fast.
> 
> And thirdly, is there any documentation about how and when to use  
> which profile, blend curve, etc? I've been experimenting with the  
> color tone shifts but most of the options seem to produce color which  
> are very close.
> 
> Godfrey

All the Install scripts work on the files that are in the same folder as the
script.  For the folders such as /Profiles/1270-UT2 there are a bunch of
profiles for the UT2 inks for the Epson 1270.  So an Install1270 script in this
folder will install all the UT2 profiles and setup the Quad1270 printer.

For those making their own profiles, you need to setup a comparable folder
on your own disk.  In the folder you will have your profile descriptors that are
all .txt files.  You need to copy one of the Install scripts from /Profiles/InstallScripts
based on the kind of the printer you are using.  When you run it now in your
own folder you'll setup the appropriate printer and install your profiles.
The profiles go into the system so that the print driver can access them.

As far as printing you should be picking profiles with the right paper or one
similar.  The idea is you pick two different hues and then blend them to get the
exact hue that you like.  For instance pick a warm and sepia, then blend 60-40
for a medium sepia rather than full sepia.  The number of possibilities is huge but
the idea is you can pick a very subtle tone.  Once you get what you like you'll
probably save it and reuse it (See Presets in Print dialog).

There's more to read in the Tutorial.pdf 

Roy

On Sep 20, 2005, at 3:53 PM, Roy Harrington wrote:

> All the Install scripts work on the files that are in the same  
> folder as the
> script.  For the folders such as /Profiles/1270-UT2 there are a  
> bunch of
> profiles for the UT2 inks for the Epson 1270.  So an Install1270  
> script in this
> folder will install all the UT2 profiles and setup the Quad1270  
> printer.
>
> For those making their own profiles, you need to setup a comparable  
> folder
> on your own disk.  In the folder you will have your profile  
> descriptors that are
> all .txt files.  You need to copy one of the Install scripts from / 
> Profiles/InstallScripts
> based on the kind of the printer you are using.  When you run it  
> now in your
> own folder you'll setup the appropriate printer and install your  
> profiles.
> The profiles go into the system so that the print driver can access  
> them.

Thanks Roy. That's helpful.

> As far as printing you should be picking profiles with the right  
> paper or one
> similar.  The idea is you pick two different hues and then blend  
> them to get the
> exact hue that you like.  For instance pick a warm and sepia, then  
> blend 60-40
> for a medium sepia rather than full sepia.  The number of  
> possibilities is huge but
> the idea is you can pick a very subtle tone.  Once you get what you  
> like you'll
> probably save it and reuse it (See Presets in Print dialog).
>
> There's more to read in the Tutorial.pdf

What's not clear to me is 'what is warm tone', 'what is cool tone',  
etc, and how the mixes work. I normally use Epson Enhanced Matte (or  
Heavyweight Matte, or Archival Matte ... they seem to rename this  
paper every other week ;-). I see choices for sepia, neutral and  
carbon. I have a test print of a grayscale step wedge, printed 7  
times with 7 different mixes of the three so I can see the color  
tones, and all but one of them looks virtually identical except for  
carbon-1, neutral-1, 85-15 mix. The inverse, neutral-1, carbon-1,  
15-85 mix, doesn't look anything like it.

Is there some guide with approximate color swatches that I can work  
from? This gets expensive in terms of time and ink consumption. The  
tutorial doesn't seem to have anything like that, nor do the various  
read-me files. Perhaps on the web somewhere?

Godfrey