Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Digest Number 2309
2012-05-02 by Nick Enghardt
Hello, Thank you for your email. I will be out of the office until May 8th. If you have an urgent need, please contact one of the Lab Coordinators or Dan McCoy at danielmc@.... Thanks, Nick Enghardt On May 2, 2012, at 5:53 AM, QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com wrote: > QTR-Quadtone RIP > Messages In This Digest (5 Messages) > 1a. > QTR image size problem From: stealthmojo101 > 1b. > Re: QTR image size problem From: Roy Harrington > 1c. > Re: QTR image size problem From: Paul > 1d. > Re: QTR image size problem From: stealthmojo101 > 1e. > Re: QTR image size problem From: Roy Harrington > View All Topics | Create New Topic > Messages > 1a. > QTR image size problem > Posted by: "stealthmojo101" ned@... stealthmojo101 > Tue May 1, 2012 9:57 am (PDT) > > > Greetings - > > Thanks in advance for anyone who can offer advice towards resolving this issue. > > Haven't used QTR for a couple of years, and recently downloaded the latest version, 2.7.0.0. Running on a 64-bit Windows Server 2008R2, with 8GB RAM. > > Using the QTR GUI, when I attempt to print a file edited in Photoshop CS5, I set the width to be exactly 6 inches. It seems to take, but upon further investigation, there seems to be a requirement that the image size exactly match a whole number percentage, as opposed to a decimal percentage. For instance, changing either the height or width of the image will move Scale from 20% to 21%, but exactly 6 inches in width lies in between the the 20 and 21 percentage points. And so QTR adjusts the image size (without any notification). > > When setting the width to 6.0, QTR changes it to 5.85, which matches 20%. The 21% size is 6.14. Can't imagine that this would be acceptable to anyone, and so I'm wondering if it's a result of my specific environment. > > Prior versions of QTR did not appear to have this issue. > > Anyone else encounter this, and if so, attain any sort of resolution? I generally need to print images in 3 sizes, and have always been able to avoid the maintenance nightmare of 3 separate copies of each image. > > Thanks again -- > > Ned Otter > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (5) > 1b. > Re: QTR image size problem > Posted by: "Roy Harrington" roy@harrington.com royvharrington > Tue May 1, 2012 10:33 am (PDT) > > > Ned, > > Yes, this is the way it works. The size is passed around as a percentage of the > declared size. So small percentages show a large increment. > > The easy fix is to store the file as the small size and then the large > sizes have a > large percentage. In your case save the file as 6 inches and your > large size will > show something like 488%. This way the increment will be too small to see. > Note that I'm not saying you resample or change the data at all, just > change the declared size (with a corresponding increase in the resolution). > > Roy > > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, stealthmojo101 <ned@...> wrote: > > Greetings - > > > > Thanks in advance for anyone who can offer advice towards resolving this issue. > > > > Haven't used QTR for a couple of years, and recently downloaded the latest version, 2.7.0.0. Running on a 64-bit Windows Server 2008R2, with 8GB RAM. > > > > Using the QTR GUI, when I attempt to print a file edited in Photoshop CS5, I set the width to be exactly 6 inches. It seems to take, but upon further investigation, there seems to be a requirement that the image size exactly match a whole number percentage, as opposed to a decimal percentage. For instance, changing either the height or width of the image will move Scale from 20% to 21%, but exactly 6 inches in width lies in between the the 20 and 21 percentage points. And so QTR adjusts the image size (without any notification). > > > > When setting the width to 6.0, QTR changes it to 5.85, which matches 20%. The 21% size is 6.14. Can't imagine that this would be acceptable to anyone, and so I'm wondering if it's a result of my specific environment. > > > > Prior versions of QTR did not appear to have this issue. > > > > Anyone else encounter this, and if so, attain any sort of resolution? I generally need to print images in 3 sizes, and have always been able to avoid the maintenance nightmare of 3 separate copies of each image. > > > > Thanks again -- > > > > Ned Otter > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > Roy Harrington > roy@... > www.harrington.com > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (5) > 1c. > Re: QTR image size problem > Posted by: "Paul" paulmwhiting@... paulmwhiting > Tue May 1, 2012 10:38 am (PDT) > > > Ned, I don't have an answer for you, but was all set to post my issue when I read your post. I wonder if my issue is related. > > I'm printing an image that measures 11 x 4.14 (it's a proof sheet for a couple of strips of 35mm negatives). My paper size is 8 1/2 x 11. When I open it in QTR, I reduce it to 91% to give me some borders at either end. However when I print it, the image becomes quite large, such that only about 4 of the six frames are printed, the frames on either end are cut off. I tried shutting down my computer and the printer and let them sit few several minutes, but no luck. > > I'm using the current version of QTR also, am running XP Pro 32 bit, with 4GB RAM. > > Like I say, I was about to start a new thread but your issue rang a bell. I don't mean to hijack your thread! > > Regards, > > Paul > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "stealthmojo101" <ned@...> wrote: > > > > Greetings - > > > > Thanks in advance for anyone who can offer advice towards resolving this issue. > > > > Haven't used QTR for a couple of years, and recently downloaded the latest version, 2.7.0.0. Running on a 64-bit Windows Server 2008R2, with 8GB RAM. > > > > Using the QTR GUI, when I attempt to print a file edited in Photoshop CS5, I set the width to be exactly 6 inches. It seems to take, but upon further investigation, there seems to be a requirement that the image size exactly match a whole number percentage, as opposed to a decimal percentage. For instance, changing either the height or width of the image will move Scale from 20% to 21%, but exactly 6 inches in width lies in between the the 20 and 21 percentage points. And so QTR adjusts the image size (without any notification). > > > > When setting the width to 6.0, QTR changes it to 5.85, which matches 20%. The 21% size is 6.14. Can't imagine that this would be acceptable to anyone, and so I'm wondering if it's a result of my specific environment. > > > > Prior versions of QTR did not appear to have this issue. > > > > Anyone else encounter this, and if so, attain any sort of resolution? I generally need to print images in 3 sizes, and have always been able to avoid the maintenance nightmare of 3 separate copies of each image. > > > > Thanks again -- > > > > Ned Otter > > > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (5) > 1d. > Re: QTR image size problem > Posted by: "stealthmojo101" ned@... stealthmojo101 > Tue May 1, 2012 3:41 pm (PDT) > > > Hi Roy, > > Thanks for the quick reply and clarity. > > Having been in the software world for a while now, I can say with the utmost respect for you and your product that a change in behavior that causes one to re-save hundreds or thousands of images does not seem like an enhancement or improvement. Prior versions of QTR did not have this issue, so the impact is quite large, at least for me. > > I did as you suggested - saving the file at 6 inches wide - and while the image will print at exactly 6 inches wide, other larger sizes can not be set exactly. This may be a non-issue as you said, because the discrepancy is so small. > > Again, I mean no offense to you or your great effort to help us all print higher quality images. > > Best, > > Ned > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote: > > > > Ned, > > > > Yes, this is the way it works. The size is passed around as a percentage of the > > declared size. So small percentages show a large increment. > > > > The easy fix is to store the file as the small size and then the large > > sizes have a > > large percentage. In your case save the file as 6 inches and your > > large size will > > show something like 488%. This way the increment will be too small to see. > > Note that I'm not saying you resample or change the data at all, just > > change the declared size (with a corresponding increase in the resolution). > > > > Roy > > > > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, stealthmojo101 <ned@...> wrote: > > > Greetings - > > > > > > Thanks in advance for anyone who can offer advice towards resolving this issue. > > > > > > Haven't used QTR for a couple of years, and recently downloaded the latest version, 2.7.0.0. Running on a 64-bit Windows Server 2008R2, with 8GB RAM. > > > > > > Using the QTR GUI, when I attempt to print a file edited in Photoshop CS5, I set the width to be exactly 6 inches. It seems to take, but upon further investigation, there seems to be a requirement that the image size exactly match a whole number percentage, as opposed to a decimal percentage. For instance, changing either the height or width of the image will move Scale from 20% to 21%, but exactly 6 inches in width lies in between the the 20 and 21 percentage points. And so QTR adjusts the image size (without any notification). > > > > > > When setting the width to 6.0, QTR changes it to 5.85, which matches 20%. The 21% size is 6.14. Can't imagine that this would be acceptable to anyone, and so I'm wondering if it's a result of my specific environment. > > > > > > Prior versions of QTR did not appear to have this issue. > > > > > > Anyone else encounter this, and if so, attain any sort of resolution? I generally need to print images in 3 sizes, and have always been able to avoid the maintenance nightmare of 3 separate copies of each image. > > > > > > Thanks again -- > > > > > > Ned Otter > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Roy Harrington > > roy@... > > www.harrington.com > > > > Back to top > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (5) > 1e. > Re: QTR image size problem > Posted by: "Roy Harrington" roy@harrington.com royvharrington > Tue May 1, 2012 11:20 pm (PDT) > > > Ned, as far as I know this has always been the way it worked. At > least I don't know > of any changes that would have done this. Main caveat I have though > is that I don't > use Windows -- I'm on a Mac. (Otherwise, I probably would have > noticed this a long > time ago and changed it). > > Sorry, > Roy > > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM, stealthmojo101 <ned@nedotter.com> wrote: > > Hi Roy, > > > > Thanks for the quick reply and clarity. > > > > Having been in the software world for a while now, I can say with the utmost respect for you and your product that a change in behavior that causes one to re-save hundreds or thousands of images does not seem like an enhancement or improvement. Prior versions of QTR did not have this issue, so the impact is quite large, at least for me. > > > > I did as you suggested - saving the file at 6 inches wide - and while the image will print at exactly 6 inches wide, other larger sizes can not be set exactly. This may be a non-issue as you said, because the discrepancy is so small. > > > > Again, I mean no offense to you or your great effort to help us all print higher quality images. > > > > Best, > > > > Ned > > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote: > >> > >> Ned, > >> > >> Yes, this is the way it works. The size is passed around as a percentage of the > >> declared size. So small percentages show a large increment. > >> > >> The easy fix is to store the file as the small size and then the large > >> sizes have a > >> large percentage. In your case save the file as 6 inches and your > >> large size will > >> show something like 488%. This way the increment will be too small to see. > >> Note that I'm not saying you resample or change the data at all, just > >> change the declared size (with a corresponding increase in the resolution). > >> > >> Roy > >> > >> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, stealthmojo101 <ned@...> wrote: > >> > Greetings - > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance for anyone who can offer advice towards resolving this issue. > >> > > >> > Haven't used QTR for a couple of years, and recently downloaded the latest version, 2.7.0.0. Running on a 64-bit Windows Server 2008R2, with 8GB RAM. > >> > > >> > Using the QTR GUI, when I attempt to print a file edited in Photoshop CS5, I set the width to be exactly 6 inches. It seems to take, but upon further investigation, there seems to be a requirement that the image size exactly match a whole number percentage, as opposed to a decimal percentage. For instance, changing either the height or width of the image will move Scale from 20% to 21%, but exactly 6 inches in width lies in between the the 20 and 21 percentage points. And so QTR adjusts the image size (without any notification). > >> > > >> > When setting the width to 6.0, QTR changes it to 5.85, which matches 20%. The 21% size is 6.14. Can't imagine that this would be acceptable to anyone, and so I'm wondering if it's a result of my specific environment. > >> > > >> > Prior versions of QTR did not appear to have this issue. > >> > > >> > Anyone else encounter this, and if so, attain any sort of resolution? I generally need to print images in 3 sizes, and have always been able to avoid the maintenance nightmare of 3 separate copies of each image. > >> > > >> > Thanks again -- > >> > > >> > Ned Otter > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > Yahoo! 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