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New to QTR, 3880 Curves

New to QTR, 3880 Curves

2013-03-14 by photofarmer69

Hello, I'm new to QTR and have been enjoying it a great deal so far from the little I've used it.  A much much much welcomed improvement over ABW.

I'm not sure if this is gauche to ask, but I'm wondering if anyone has curves for the 3880 they'd be willing to share.  In particular I'd love to find some for Canson Platine or Baryta, as they're my usual paper.  Neutral, cool, warm...whatever!

I'v been using the generic Baryta curves with relative success, so it's not an emergency, but figured it didn't hurt to ask.

Thanks so much.

Re: New to QTR, 3880 Curves

2013-03-15 by nmenghardt

Graeme,

Glad you're having fun with QTR, it's definitely streets ahead of ABW.

There aren't any 3880 curves posted in the files section, but if you're willing to print and ship a target to me I can scan it and create the curve to install.

Let me know if you're interested.

Thanks,
Nick Enghardt
St. Edward's University Advanced Imaging Lab Manager

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "photofarmer69" <graeme.l.mitchell@...> wrote:
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> Hello, I'm new to QTR and have been enjoying it a great deal so far from the little I've used it.  A much much much welcomed improvement over ABW.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is gauche to ask, but I'm wondering if anyone has curves for the 3880 they'd be willing to share.  In particular I'd love to find some for Canson Platine or Baryta, as they're my usual paper.  Neutral, cool, warm...whatever!
> 
> I'v been using the generic Baryta curves with relative success, so it's not an emergency, but figured it didn't hurt to ask.
> 
> Thanks so much.
>

Re: New to QTR, 3880 Curves

2013-03-15 by photofarmer69

Nick, what a kind offer.  Thank you.  

I'm getting amazingly nice results using the standard PRBaryta curves, so my interest in trying a curve specifically for Canson Baryta or Platine is more out of my curiosity.  Namely, how much better it could be?  That's why I was asking if anyone had one they could toss me to compare. So, with that, I don't really know if the time and trouble for the custom curves your offering is worth it???  That sounds silly, but maybe you could tell me.

(This btw is all leading me to the inevitable conclusion of getting a set of k7 inks for this printer...sigh.)

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "nmenghardt" <nicholae@...> wrote:
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>
> Graeme,
> 
> Glad you're having fun with QTR, it's definitely streets ahead of ABW.
> 
> There aren't any 3880 curves posted in the files section, but if you're willing to print and ship a target to me I can scan it and create the curve to install.
> 
> Let me know if you're interested.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nick Enghardt
> St. Edward's University Advanced Imaging Lab Manager
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "photofarmer69" <graeme.l.mitchell@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I'm new to QTR and have been enjoying it a great deal so far from the little I've used it.  A much much much welcomed improvement over ABW.
> > 
> > I'm not sure if this is gauche to ask, but I'm wondering if anyone has curves for the 3880 they'd be willing to share.  In particular I'd love to find some for Canson Platine or Baryta, as they're my usual paper.  Neutral, cool, warm...whatever!
> > 
> > I'v been using the generic Baryta curves with relative success, so it's not an emergency, but figured it didn't hurt to ask.
> > 
> > Thanks so much.
> >
>

Re: New to QTR, 3880 Curves

2013-03-16 by tboleyyh

hi Graeme, actually if there is a continuos progression of tones without flat spots or reversals with each of the hue curves provided for a different paper than yours, on your paper, I find the most straightforward next step to nail it more, and have more predictable results, is the simply make, or have made, a QTR icc profile to use with those already provided curves. In fact if you have one or two hue curve blends you currently like, have them made for those combinations and nail it further, including the ability to softproof hes and all.
Perhaps others using qtr more often than I can pop in on that opinion...
Tyler

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "photofarmer69" <graeme.l.mitchell@...> wrote:
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> Nick, what a kind offer.  Thank you.  
> 
> I'm getting amazingly nice results using the standard PRBaryta curves, so my interest in trying a curve specifically for Canson Baryta or Platine is more out of my curiosity.  Namely, how much better it could be?  That's why I was asking if anyone had one they could toss me to compare. So, with that, I don't really know if the time and trouble for the custom curves your offering is worth it???  That sounds silly, but maybe you could tell me.
> 
> (This btw is all leading me to the inevitable conclusion of getting a set of k7 inks for this printer...sigh.)
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "nmenghardt" <nicholae@> wrote:
> >
> > Graeme,
> > 
> > Glad you're having fun with QTR, it's definitely streets ahead of ABW.
> > 
> > There aren't any 3880 curves posted in the files section, but if you're willing to print and ship a target to me I can scan it and create the curve to install.
> > 
> > Let me know if you're interested.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Nick Enghardt
> > St. Edward's University Advanced Imaging Lab Manager
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "photofarmer69" <graeme.l.mitchell@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, I'm new to QTR and have been enjoying it a great deal so far from the little I've used it.  A much much much welcomed improvement over ABW.
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure if this is gauche to ask, but I'm wondering if anyone has curves for the 3880 they'd be willing to share.  In particular I'd love to find some for Canson Platine or Baryta, as they're my usual paper.  Neutral, cool, warm...whatever!
> > > 
> > > I'v been using the generic Baryta curves with relative success, so it's not an emergency, but figured it didn't hurt to ask.
> > > 
> > > Thanks so much.
> > >
> >
>

Re: New to QTR, 3880 Curves

2013-03-16 by photofarmer69

Tyler, nice to see you on here!  And thanks again for pointing me in this direction to begin with.  QTR is much easier than I expected it to be.

What you're saying makes perfect sense.  While I've been thinking in terms of these QTR "curves" as profiles, I'd not considered the approach of a custom photoshop icc profile to tie in with them like you're suggesting.  So far the prints look really great to my eye tonality wise.  I actually jumped right in to using 3 curves.   Right now I'm going from warm/neutral/cool (highlights/mids/shadows), and while I tweak a bit from print to print, that's the general direction.

Like we'd discussed, the next point is looking into either k7 (I've ordered samples) or getting Glop on these.  My concern is I'm using a 3880 and the whole pizza wheel issue. I've seen that with softer Baryta (canson) papers using my current ink set.  They're a big hassle.  But I don't have space for a bigger printer.  This is maybe a different discussion for a different place.  

Thanks again, I appreciate your guidance on this.  


 
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "tboleyyh" <tyler@...> wrote:
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>
> hi Graeme, actually if there is a continuos progression of tones without flat spots or reversals with each of the hue curves provided for a different paper than yours, on your paper, I find the most straightforward next step to nail it more, and have more predictable results, is the simply make, or have made, a QTR icc profile to use with those already provided curves. In fact if you have one or two hue curve blends you currently like, have them made for those combinations and nail it further, including the ability to softproof hes and all.
> Perhaps others using qtr more often than I can pop in on that opinion...
> Tyler
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "photofarmer69" <graeme.l.mitchell@> wrote:
> >
> > Nick, what a kind offer.  Thank you.  
> > 
> > I'm getting amazingly nice results using the standard PRBaryta curves, so my interest in trying a curve specifically for Canson Baryta or Platine is more out of my curiosity.  Namely, how much better it could be?  That's why I was asking if anyone had one they could toss me to compare. So, with that, I don't really know if the time and trouble for the custom curves your offering is worth it???  That sounds silly, but maybe you could tell me.
> > 
> > (This btw is all leading me to the inevitable conclusion of getting a set of k7 inks for this printer...sigh.)
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "nmenghardt" <nicholae@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Graeme,
> > > 
> > > Glad you're having fun with QTR, it's definitely streets ahead of ABW.
> > > 
> > > There aren't any 3880 curves posted in the files section, but if you're willing to print and ship a target to me I can scan it and create the curve to install.
> > > 
> > > Let me know if you're interested.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nick Enghardt
> > > St. Edward's University Advanced Imaging Lab Manager
> > > 
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "photofarmer69" <graeme.l.mitchell@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello, I'm new to QTR and have been enjoying it a great deal so far from the little I've used it.  A much much much welcomed improvement over ABW.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure if this is gauche to ask, but I'm wondering if anyone has curves for the 3880 they'd be willing to share.  In particular I'd love to find some for Canson Platine or Baryta, as they're my usual paper.  Neutral, cool, warm...whatever!
> > > > 
> > > > I'v been using the generic Baryta curves with relative success, so it's not an emergency, but figured it didn't hurt to ask.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks so much.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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