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Reply to Mike Finley & Paul Roark

Reply to Mike Finley & Paul Roark

2013-12-10 by <beefyzee@...>

Sorry guys but now I can't post replies with any of the "reply" buttons. I cannot believe what Yahoo have gone and done with Yahoo Groups, they've completely messed it up.

First of all thanks for your inputs.

I checked out that print group and the owner appears rather stringent about only users of PDN being members. If my quest for the perfect inkjet negative fails I'll shoot him an email. There are inks (black) dedicated to making film positives. One such brand is "Black Max". They are supposed to be very fast drying. My idea is to centrifuge the original ink out of the cartridges then fill all cartridges with this ink, block the outlet holes then centrifuge again to get all the air bubbles out. I've done the latter numerous times when refilling cartridges, works great. For now though I'm just playing with finding the best control of depositing max ink.

Having viewed many screenprinting threads, they always talk about achieving the max deposition of ink to get the opacity on their film positives.

I had a quick read of the calibration PDF and if I've got it correct it seems you can just about make QTR flood the print material. That sounds like what I need LOL.

Regarding the print material absorbing the ink, many people have talked about the quality of the film positive material. Seems the high quality transparencies which are specifically designed for this purpose take the ink much better and dry very fast, whereas a general cheapy inkjet transparency can give comparatively atrocious results.

I'm wondering now if QTR can just "fire" the black cartridge, so I don't have to fill all cartridges with the black screenprinting ink.

Thanks guys,

Keith.

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Reply to Mike Finley & Paul Roark

2013-12-10 by Mike Finley

Yes, you can flood the 'paper' (you can even flood real paper), and you 
can use just one cartridge. just disable the others (I think). Its a 
long time since I tried making digital negatives.


On 10/12/2013 18:14, beefyzee@... wrote:
>
> Sorry guys but now I can't post replies with any of the "reply" 
> buttons. I cannot believe what Yahoo have gone and done with Yahoo 
> Groups, they've completely messed it up.
>
> First of all thanks for your inputs.
>
> I checked out that print group and the owner appears rather stringent 
> about only users of PDN being members. If my quest for the perfect 
> inkjet negative fails I'll shoot him an email. There are inks (black) 
> dedicated to making film positives. One such brand is "Black Max". 
> They are supposed to be very fast drying. My idea is to centrifuge the 
> original ink out of the cartridges then fill all cartridges with this 
> ink, block the outlet holes then centrifuge again to get all the air 
> bubbles out. I've done the latter numerous times when refilling 
> cartridges, works great. For now though I'm just playing with finding 
> the best control of depositing max ink.
>
> Having viewed many screenprinting threads, they always talk about 
> achieving the max deposition of ink to get the opacity on their film 
> positives.
>
> I had a quick read of the calibration PDF and if I've got it correct 
> it seems you can just about make QTR flood the print material. 
> That sounds like what I need LOL.
>
> Regarding the print material absorbing the ink, many people have 
> talked about the quality of the film positive material. Seems the high 
> quality transparencies which are specifically designed for this 
> purpose take the ink much better and dry very fast, whereas a general 
> cheapy inkjet transparency can give comparatively atrocious results.
>
> I'm wondering now if QTR can just "fire" the black cartridge, so I 
> don't have to fill all cartridges with the black screenprinting ink.
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Keith.
>
> 

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http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Reply to Mike Finley & Paul Roark

2013-12-10 by Paul Roark

... There are inks (black) dedicated to making film positives. One such brand is "Black Max".

That's an interesting specialty. Google just got me to http://www.silkscreeningsupplies.com/product/RipComboBLK1430

It looks like it is dye ink. I've been using Noritsu dyes bought in bulk. See, for example, http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Claria-Noritsu-2K2LK.pdf

They are supposed to be very fast drying. My idea is to centrifuge the original ink out of the cartridges

I do have a centrifuge, but I've never tried that method. I just pull the ink out of cartridges with syringes and bottom fill adapters. I also use these to pull the air out of the outlet after filling.

MIS Associates aka www.inksupply.com makes lots of accessories that might be useful to you.

If you just use the one K position, you can fill the others with the generic base I use. See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf . You don't want the other positions to be dry -- bad for the head.

Good luck with the project.

Paul

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