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R3000 inkseparation/calibration problem

R3000 inkseparation/calibration problem

2014-01-28 by Bob Belleville

Short description of the problem:

I have both a Epson 2200 and an R3000. All works well with the 2200 but the inkseparation files printed in calibration mode only print ink on the K, C, M, and Y heads. All the others are blank.

Details:

QTR 2.7.2 for windows.
Win 7 Pro fully up to date. 6 core AMD cpu and 8G ram.
R3000 on wireless. Prints fine with LR and PS. Nozzle check is all fine all heads working.

I did inkseparation checks on the 2200 and then built custom curves that work for the
2200 before starting the R3000 so I know basically how this works.

Printing the inkseparation.tif in calibration mode works on the K,C,M,Y and then just fades out
with no other heads activated.

Using Python I constructed a number of test .tif files that work on the 2200 to show all
heads. 7 head are fully functional on the 2200 but only the 4 above print on the R3000.

I made patches with the following (RGB) codes:
([127, 191, 223, 239, 247, 251, 253, 254],30,255) total of 8 and
(255,30,[127, 191, 223, 239, 247, 251, 253, 254]) total of 8

In the first group all 7 head work on the 2200 but only
([127, 191, 223, 239],30,255) work on the R3000.

The second batch which have the Orange and Green heads for the 10 ink printers show
nothing on the R3000.

Does anyone on the windows side actually have the R3000 working? What are the 'head codes'
to get to the other 4 inks?

many thanks

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] R3000 inkseparation/calibration problem

2014-01-29 by Harry Lockwood

Bob, Excuse me if this is a totally dumb question (coming from a Mac user with an R3000): your R3000 is connected wirelessly; have you tried running it from a USB connection?

HFL

From: Bob Belleville <bobbelleville@...>
Reply-To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:00 PM
To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] R3000 inkseparation/calibration problem

Short description of the problem:

I have both a Epson 2200 and an R3000. All works well with the 2200 but the inkseparation files printed in calibration mode only print ink on the K, C, M, and Y heads. All the others are blank.

Details:

QTR 2.7.2 for windows.
Win 7 Pro fully up to date. 6 core AMD cpu and 8G ram.
R3000 on wireless. Prints fine with LR and PS. Nozzle check is all fine all heads working.

I did inkseparation checks on the 2200 and then built custom curves that work for the
2200 before starting the R3000 so I know basically how this works.

Printing the inkseparation.tif in calibration mode works on the K,C,M,Y and then just fades out
with no other heads activated.

Using Python I constructed a number of test .tif files that work on the 2200 to show all
heads. 7 head are fully functional on the 2200 but only the 4 above print on the R3000.

I made patches with the following (RGB) codes:
([127, 191, 223, 239, 247, 251, 253, 254],30,255) total of 8 and
(255,30,[127, 191, 223, 239, 247, 251, 253, 254]) total of 8

In the first group all 7 head work on the 2200 but only
([127, 191, 223, 239],30,255) work on the R3000.

The second batch which have the Orange and Green heads for the 10 ink printers show
nothing on the R3000.

Does anyone on the windows side actually have the R3000 working? ;What are the 'head codes'
to get to the other 4 inks?

many thanks

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] R3000 inkseparation/calibration problem

2014-01-29 by Bob Belleville

I had an exchange with Roy Harrington this morning and here is the
answer to my problem:

As I woke up this morning, I also suspected that the wrong
PPD file was selected by the QTRgui. That proved to be the
case. QTRgui is a bit skitterish with the dropdowns on my Win 7
pro. I have very fast 6 core processor and sometime older
code doesn't expect to handle events as fast as these
new machines can produce them.

Often the dropdowns don't work at all and I have to restart
the gui.

I did select the R3000 ppd but it got changed to some other
random one as I closed the dropdown.

Also thanks for the inkseparation8.tif file. You don't need
to worry about the windows distribution because the 8 head
version is the default named inkseparation.tif along with 3
others for 6, 7 and 10 heads.

So problem solved. I'm on to follow your advice on the 2880
and continue my evaluation of QuadTone RIP.

so problem solved - thanks to all

Bob

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] R3000 inkseparation/calibration problem

2014-01-30 by <bobbelleville@...>

many thanks to all for your consideration


problem solved


(from my email to Roy Harrington)


As I woke up this morning, I also suspected that the wrong
PPD file was selected by the QTRgui. That proved to be the
case. QTRgui is a bit skitterish with the dropdowns on my Win 7
pro. I have very fast 6 core processor and sometime older
code doesn't expect to handle events as fast as these
new machines can produce them.

Often the dropdowns don't work at all and I have to restart
the gui.

I did select the R3000 ppd but it got changed to some other
random one as I closed the dropdown.

Also thanks for the inkseparation8.tif file. You don't need
to worry about the windows distribution because the 8 head
version is the default named inkseparation.tif along with 3
others for 6, 7 and 10 heads.

So problem solved. I'm on to follow your advice on the 2880
and continue my evaluation of QuadTone RIP.


again many thanks

RE: R3000 inkseparation/calibration problem

2014-02-02 by <mdobbs@...>

Hi, I'm new to forum and am just starting my QTRip journey with my R3000. I use 3rd party inks (Ink Republic) in a CIS.

Did my first calibration print today and I'm seeing basically what you got...but in my case, only the first three inks were printed (L,C,M)...all others blank. I've confirmed my printer name & model (Quad3000) are correctly selected in the GUI.


Suggestions?

Mike.

RE: R3000 inkseparation/calibration problem

2014-02-02 by <mdobbs@...>

Also, on a whim, I tried printing the inkseperation.tif file using Qimage, no colour management in the epson driver settitngs and no profile applied by Qimage. I got output on all 8 ink lines, but it's all blue & shades of purple/magenta...so obviously this needs to print via QTR's printer mode Quad3000.


I'll await forum rec's on how to proceed....maybe reach out to Roy H.

Cheers.

Mike.

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] RE: R3000 inkseparation/calibration problem

2014-02-04 by Roy Harrington

You'll never get anything useful printing ink separation file through the Epson driver.

It appears you have run into the same issue as Bob. QTRgui selects the Quad mode
based on matching printer numbers. So what happening is you are getting the
Quad driver for 3000 printer (very old 4 ink printer) instead of the R3000 printer which
is what you have. Be sure to check that it says QuadR3000 -- the "R" is very
important.

Roy

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On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:49 AM, <mdobbs@...> wrote:


Also, on a whim, I tried printing the inkseperation.tif file using Qimage, no colour management in the epson driver settitngs and no profile applied by Qimage. I got output on all 8 ink lines, but it's all blue & shades of purple/magenta...so obviously this needs to print via QTR's printer mode Quad3000.


I'll await forum rec's on how to proceed....maybe reach out to Roy H.

Cheers.

Mike.






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