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color management, gray, in CC.. one more time

color management, gray, in CC.. one more time

2014-09-09 by tyler@...

so since there are no color management options for printing grayscale files now, can we assume a grayscale profile chart, untagged, is going straight to driver and printer without any conversion? Isn't that how the ABW driver works now, and therefore QTR?

I realize that later I will have to build RGB profiles, but for now just need properly printed charts, and my buddies aren't likely to learn APU or the QTR print tool, yet anyway..
Thanks,
Tyler


Re: [QuadtoneRIP] color management, gray, in CC.. one more time

2014-09-09 by Roy Harrington

It's hard to keep up with the CM issues of Apple and adobe but I think the current stuff ALWAYS converts whatever you send to ABW or QTR driver to sRGB some where along the way. There is no NOCM option.

You really can't do profile/linearization without tricky stuff or Print-Tool. (Print-Tool is not something that needs to be "learned")

Roy
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On Tuesday, September 9, 2014, tyler@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


so since there are no color management options for printing grayscale files now, can we assume a grayscale profile chart, untagged, is going straight to driver and printer without any conversion? Isn't that how the ABW driver works now, and therefore QTR?

I realize that later I will have to build RGB profiles, but for now just need properly printed charts, and my buddies aren't likely to learn APU or the QTR print tool, yet anyway..
Thanks,
Tyler






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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] color management, gray, in CC.. one more time

2014-09-10 by Myron Gochnauer

Print-Tool is the least problematic piece of software I use for photography, and probably the simplest as well. If it has any problems, and have not encountered them.

I’m sure we all have wish lists - - mine includes crop marks and on-the-fly sharpening - - but Print-Tool does what nothing else does, and does it without any nonsense or complicated licensing schemes. Hurray!

Myron

"You really can't do profile/linearization without tricky stuff or Print-Tool. (Print-Tool is not something that needs to be "learned")"

I know Roy, there are "issues"... you don't want to know..
Thanks for all your input


Re: [QuadtoneRIP] color management, gray, in CC.. one more time

2014-09-14 by tyler@...

Print Tool is indeed excellent, and a remarkable option for many of us who depend on capabilities being taken away as our major tools develop into more mainstream products. I was referring more to my inability to convince those I advise to download and instal yet another app.
This is one of the few truly worth using.

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] color management, gray, in CC.. one more time

2014-09-14 by Chetty Ramanathan

I do use PrintTool, and like it very much.  Printing the target patches to be read by i1Pro is not what I'm having trouble with.  It's reading the posted dataset into Colorport2 is where I'm running into difficulty.




On Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:51 PM, "tyler@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:






Print Tool is indeed excellent, and a remarkable option for many of us who depend on capabilities being taken away as our major tools develop into more mainstream products. I was referring more to my inability to convince those I advise to download and instal yet another app.
This is one of the few truly worth using.

Re: color management, gray, in CC.. one more time

2014-09-15 by richard@...


I just commented on a similar issue in one of the other recent threads, but my reply isn't showing up.

Are you trying to read the data from the images included in QTR or ones that you generating in ColorPort?

The header/data structure of the reference files don't play well together. When working with RGB you just copy this to a txt file, and then use it to import a patch set, then save the target as a tiff. you then load the same set in the target manager in the measurement tab of ColorPort and it should measure without any problem.

255 255 255
242 242 242
230 230 230
217 217 217
204 204 204
191 191 191
179 179 179
166 166 166
153 153 153
140 140 140
128 128 128
115 115 115
102 102 102
89 89 89
77 77 77
64 64 64
51 51 51
38 38 38
26 26 26
13 13 13
0 0 0


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Richard Boutwell

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