Poor quality on A3
2016-03-12 by tattobe@...
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2016-03-12 by tattobe@...
Hello,
When I print on A3 (saying this because it does not happen on A4) the first and the last 1,5cm (1/2 inch) are visibly of poorer quality than the rest of the print (on 2880dpi). Does anybody knows why?
Thank you
2016-03-12 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
This happens with most small-format printers at 2880 dpi (the R1430 etc). It’s a function of the low-quality printheads. Best bet is to simply use larger paper and cut-down or print with 1” top/bottom margins. Regards, Walker
2016-03-12 by tattobe@...
2016-03-12 by brian_downunda@...
2016-03-12 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
I stand corrected and really didn’t think that through outside of the really cheepo printers. The R2880 (for example) uses the DX5 head so . . . You’re correct. It has to be in-softw. ehh. These small formats are indeed pesky. regards, Walker
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 5:22 PM, brian_downunda@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I disagree with Walker that it's caused by low-quality print heads. This has been explained here previously by Roy Harrington. See this blog post for a detailed explanation and workarounds: > > http://www.cyberhalides.com/piezography-printing/microbanding-and-gloss-printing-issues-with-qtr/ <http://www.cyberhalides.com/piezography-printing/microbanding-and-gloss-printing-issues-with-qtr/> > > > > >
2016-03-12 by jeff.grant@...
2016-03-13 by brian_downunda@...
2016-03-13 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
On Mar 12, 2016, at 9:36 PM, brian_downunda@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:If the R1430 is that low-grade, then why has IJM put so much effort into developing the forthcoming Piezo digital negative system for it?
2016-03-13 by tattobe@...
2016-03-13 by Jacques Caron
A few reasons for doing the 1430.1. Because it’s actually a really very high-quality K6 head after the first inch and before the last. It’s dither pattern is almost superior to the x900s frankly (what I’m seeing in-lab right now). We are putting a CISS on it that (when raised to the proper level) increases pressure to the head decreases any small micro-banding.2. This lowers the barrier-of-entry for anyone wanting to do alt-process at really high quality! We are seeing resolutions at a 1point-text level with Platinum right now . . . .3. It’s a $300.00 printer that you can get new, that doesn’t have insane DRM built into it that excludes alternative inks.cheers,WalkerIf the R1430 is that low-grade, then why has IJM put so much effort into developing the forthcoming Piezo digital negative system for it?
2016-03-13 by Larry Beach
Any chance on a similar CISS for the R2000? R2000: better paper handling, Refurbs are just $50 more than a new 1430 refurbed R2000 may be newer than refurbed R2880 I must admit I don't see how pressurization reduces microbanding. I thought microbanding was due to how Epson was feeding paper during the first and last inch, now how ink was delivered. Perhaps I need to reread the microbanding issues. Larry -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 3/13/16, 'forums@...' forums@walkerblackwell.com [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Poor quality on A3
To: "QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 7:16 AM
A few reasons
for doing the 1430.
1. Because
it’s actually a really very high-quality K6 head after
the first inch and before the last. It’s dither pattern is
almost superior to the x900s frankly (what I’m seeing
in-lab right now). We are putting a CISS on it that (when
raised to the proper level) increases pressure to the head
decreases any small micro-banding.
2. This lowers the
barrier-of-entry for anyone wanting to do alt-process at
really high quality! We are seeing resolutions at a
1point-text level with Platinum right now . . . .
3. It’s a $300.00 printer that
you can get new, that
doesn’t have insane DRM built into it that excludes
alternative inks.
cheers,Walker
On Mar 12, 2016, at 9:36 PM, brian_downunda@...
[QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
If the R1430 is that low-grade,
then why has IJM put so much effort into developing the
forthcoming Piezo digital negative system for
it?
#yiv5310550692 #yiv5310550692 --2016-03-13 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
Micro-banding (micro-micro banding? heh) exists in the 1430 with super tight-dot papers/films (glossy, Pictorico, etc). I’ve seen way less (to no) micro banding with CISS on that printer. Working on possible R2000 CISS and R2880 CISS as well. Possibly R3000 (different setup) stay tuned. The trick to all of these CISSs is to make sure we use the correct high-quality tubing. The default tubing for most CISS’s don’t cut it so we’ve put a lot of time and effort into testing a ton of different tubing configs. probably off-topic for this thread but if anyone wants to know progress on this, the IJM forum will have it (inkjetmall.com/tech <http://inkjetmall.com/tech>) cheers all, Walker
> On Mar 13, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Larry Beach pianoquartet@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Any chance on a similar CISS for the R2000?
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> R2000:
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> Refurbs are just $50 more than a new 1430
> refurbed R2000 may be newer than refurbed R2880
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> I must admit I don't see how pressurization reduces microbanding. I thought microbanding was due to how Epson was feeding paper during the first and last inch, now how ink was delivered. Perhaps I need to reread the microbanding issues.
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> Larry
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> On Sun, 3/13/16, 'forums@... <mailto:forums@...>' forums@walkerblackwell.com <mailto:forums@...> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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> A few reasons
> for doing the 1430.
> 1. Because
> it’s actually a really very high-quality K6 head after
> the first inch and before the last. It’s dither pattern is
> almost superior to the x900s frankly (what I’m seeing
> in-lab right now). We are putting a CISS on it that (when
> raised to the proper level) increases pressure to the head
> decreases any small micro-banding.
> 2. This lowers the
> barrier-of-entry for anyone wanting to do alt-process at
> really high quality! We are seeing resolutions at a
> 1point-text level with Platinum right now . . . .
> 3. It’s a $300.00 printer that
> you can get new, that
> doesn’t have insane DRM built into it that excludes
> alternative inks.
> cheers,Walker
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> On Mar 12, 2016, at 9:36 PM, brian_downunda@... <mailto:brian_downunda@...>
> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>>
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> If the R1430 is that low-grade,
> then why has IJM put so much effort into developing the
> forthcoming Piezo digital negative system for
> it?
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>2016-03-13 by brian_downunda@...
2016-03-13 by paulmwhiting@...
2016-03-13 by paulmwhiting@...
2016-03-13 by brian_downunda@...
2016-03-14 by Jacques Caron
Jacques,
Any way you could send a photo of how and where that 1" blue Styrofoam strip goes? Dropbox maybe, or in the files section of this group? Thank you!
Paul
2016-03-14 by rdeloe1@...
2016-03-14 by Jacques Caron
Jacques,
I was going to ask for that picture of your styrofoam too! Thanks for posting. Unfortunately, the link doesn't seem to be working. Can you check it?
Thanks,
Rob
2016-03-14 by Jacques Caron
Hi RobIt's working perfectly here. Just in case :Hope that this one work; I'm very good with DropboxJacquesJacques Caron
Jacques,
I was going to ask for that picture of your styrofoam too! Thanks for posting. Unfortunately, the link doesn't seem to be working. Can you check it?
Thanks,
Rob
2016-03-15 by paulmwhiting@...
2016-03-15 by paulmwhiting@...
2016-03-15 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
That’s a good one! cheers and thank you Jacques! Walker ,_._,___
2016-03-15 by Jacques Caron
All three worked for me, Jacques, thank you. Good to know... I didn't realize head strikes were harmful.
Regards,
Paul
2016-03-15 by rdeloe1@...
2016-03-15 by Jacques Caron
This one worked. Thank you Jacques.