QTR-Quadtone RIP

Mr H.

Hi. I'm a long time user of QTR, verry happy with it, thanks tons. 
Question:
I use a 2200 and I'm considering trying Cones' K7 inks.
Cone says that I need to get a new version of QTR. 

I have the latest and asked them if they had just the profiles. They 
said no, that I would have to purchase QTR with their profiles 
embedded..

Well, I already did purchase QTR when the newest version came out so am 
I going to have to buy yet another copy of the same version with Cone 
profiles embedded or is there a different "Cone friendly" driver and if 
so, will it work if I decide to use Ultra Chrome again?

Thanks

Jules

Jules

I have the latest QTR (2.4.1) and the Cone curves appear to be included
under the Quad2200-NK7 printing model. They are named slightly differently
than those appearing on the inkjetmall web site (e.g. the names include the
2880 printer setting) and there appear to be some additional names present.
However, if you use the curve creator to look for qidf files, you will see
that the only qidf file present is for a 1440 curve. Cone does not provide
its source file for the curve.

Perhaps the Cone website has more recent versions of these curves, but I
could not find them.

Tom Moore

> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of lulalake_1999
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:11 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com

...

> 
> Well, I already did purchase QTR when the newest version came out so am
> I going to have to buy yet another copy of the same version with Cone
> profiles embedded or is there a different "Cone friendly" driver and if
> so, will it work if I decide to use Ultra Chrome again?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jules
> 
...

> I have the latest and asked them if they had just the profiles. They 
> said no, that I would have to purchase QTR with their profiles 
> embedded..
> Jules

The Cone curves are in the current download. No need to buy QTR again.

Go to the Profiles folder and look for "2100-2200-NK7" folder.

Jules,

I wrote that you needed to download the package, not purchase. Roy can correct me if I 
am wrong, but it is my understanding that your purchase of QTR entitles you to free 
updates and downloads...


regards,


Jon Cone
InkjetMall


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" <lulalake_1999@...> wrote:

>
> Mr H.
> 
> Hi. I'm a long time user of QTR, verry happy with it, thanks tons. 
> Question:
> I use a 2200 and I'm considering trying Cones' K7 inks.
> Cone says that I need to get a new version of QTR. 
> 
> I have the latest and asked them if they had just the profiles. They 
> said no, that I would have to purchase QTR with their profiles 
> embedded..
> 
> Well, I already did purchase QTR when the newest version came out so am 
> I going to have to buy yet another copy of the same version with Cone 
> profiles embedded or is there a different "Cone friendly" driver and if 
> so, will it work if I decide to use Ultra Chrome again?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jules
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <piezobw@...> wrote:
>
> Jules,
> 
> I wrote that you needed to download the package, not purchase. Roy 
can correct me if I 
> am wrong, but it is my understanding that your purchase of QTR 
entitles you to free 
> updates and downloads...
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> 
> Jon Cone
> InkjetMall
> 
> 

John,

Thanks kindly for your response. So I can order a set of inks, 
download the QTR package, install that QTR over the one I have (or a 
clean install) and then I'm then ready to do some inkjetting?

I got a bit confused as your advertising seems to say that "the 
package" is a set of inks and QTR with the profiles imbedded for $124.

http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/bw2/index.html

Where as the set of inks alone is $118

http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/piezok7/piezo-k7-inks.html#2200

If you don't mind me asking, why not supply the QTR profiles 
separately? Possibly idiot proofing the profile installation? 

Cheers

Jules

Jules,

The inks and the software/profiles are completely separate -- the inks
from Cone and the software from me.  The profiles were made by Cone
but they are downloaded with the software for ease of installation and 
use.

One purchase of the QTR software entitles you to updates of the software
which incidentally also gives you updates of the profiles.

Roy

On Tuesday, March 14, 2006, at 10:45  AM, lulalake_1999 wrote:

> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <piezobw@...> wrote:
>>
>> Jules,
>>
>> I wrote that you needed to download the package, not purchase. Roy
> can correct me if I
>> am wrong, but it is my understanding that your purchase of QTR
> entitles you to free
>> updates and downloads...
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>>
>> Jon Cone
>> InkjetMall
>>
>>
>
> John,
>
> Thanks kindly for your response. So I can order a set of inks,
> download the QTR package, install that QTR over the one I have (or a
> clean install) and then I'm then ready to do some inkjetting?
>
> I got a bit confused as your advertising seems to say that "the
> package" is a set of inks and QTR with the profiles imbedded for $124.
>
> http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/bw2/index.html
>
> Where as the set of inks alone is $118
>
> http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/piezok7/piezo-k7-inks.html#2200
>
> If you don't mind me asking, why not supply the QTR profiles
> separately? Possibly idiot proofing the profile installation?
>
> Cheers
>
> Jules
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
-
Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" <lulalake_1999@...> wrote:
> John,
> 
> Thanks kindly for your response. So I can order a set of inks, 
> download the QTR package, install that QTR over the one I have (or a 
> clean install) and then I'm then ready to do some inkjetting?
> 
> I got a bit confused as your advertising seems to say that "the 
> package" is a set of inks and QTR with the profiles imbedded for $124.

That is actually a kit which includes inks and paper samples. We do not charge anything 
for QTR or our profiles which Roy Harrington is kind enough to include in his package.


> 
> http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/bw2/index.html
> 
> Where as the set of inks alone is $118

If you would just like the inks here is the link for just inks:
http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/piezok7/piezo-k7-2200.html

The other package includes as I said, paper samples! (won't need this if you already have 
supported papers.)



> If you don't mind me asking, why not supply the QTR profiles 
> separately? Possibly idiot proofing the profile installation? 


That would actually be much more difficult for most users to figure out how to get the 
profiles and put them where they belong!!!  :)

regards,

Jon

> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jules
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
>
> Jules,
> 
> The inks and the software/profiles are completely separate -- the 
inks
> from Cone and the software from me.  The profiles were made by Cone
> but they are downloaded with the software for ease of installation 
and 
> use.
> 
> One purchase of the QTR software entitles you to updates of the 
software
> which incidentally also gives you updates of the profiles.
> 
> Roy
> 


Roy,

Thanks for the reply. I just find that some of the language on Cone's 
site a bit less than clear.

I am aware of the upgrading with QTR, although I don't know exactly 
how to update other than just download the newest version, which I 
have done. (I see Cone's profiles there and am ordering the K7's 
today!). I believe somewhere you said that you don't keep records of 
who buys or doesn't buy your software so what's to determine if I am 
upgrading or just downloading? 

Cheers

Jules

> 
> I am aware of the upgrading with QTR, although I don't know exactly 
> how to update other than just download the newest version, which I 
> have done. (I see Cone's profiles there and am ordering the K7's 
> today!). I believe somewhere you said that you don't keep records of 
> who buys or doesn't buy your software so what's to determine if I am 
> upgrading or just downloading? 

Conscience..?

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone" <piezobw@...> wrote:
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" 
<lulalake_1999@> wrote:
> > John,
> > 
> > Thanks kindly for your response. So I can order a set of inks, 
> > download the QTR package, install that QTR over the one I have 
(or a 
> > clean install) and then I'm then ready to do some inkjetting?
> > 
> > I got a bit confused as your advertising seems to say that "the 
> > package" is a set of inks and QTR with the profiles imbedded for 
$124.
> 
> That is actually a kit which includes inks and paper samples. We do 
not charge anything 
> for QTR or our profiles which Roy Harrington is kind enough to 
include in his package.
> 
> 
> > 
> > http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/bw2/index.html
> > 
> > Where as the set of inks alone is $118
> 
> If you would just like the inks here is the link for just inks:
> http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/piezok7/piezo-k7-2200.html
> 
> The other package includes as I said, paper samples! (won't need 
this if you already have 
> supported papers.)
> 
> 
> 
> > If you don't mind me asking, why not supply the QTR profiles 
> > separately? Possibly idiot proofing the profile installation? 
> 
> 
> That would actually be much more difficult for most users to figure 
out how to get the 
> profiles and put them where they belong!!!  :)
> 
> regards,
> 
> Jon


Thanks Jon,

AHA! I understand now. I didn't know that the kit contains papers 
etc. Since I have paper etc. I ordered the inkset only.

Thanks much for your help. Now if Mr. Gates would respond as well as 
you and Roy . . . . .

Cheers

Jules

On Wednesday, March 15, 2006, at 07:12  AM, lulalake_1999 wrote:

> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Jules,
>>
>> The inks and the software/profiles are completely separate -- the
> inks
>> from Cone and the software from me.  The profiles were made by Cone
>> but they are downloaded with the software for ease of installation
> and
>> use.
>>
>> One purchase of the QTR software entitles you to updates of the
> software
>> which incidentally also gives you updates of the profiles.
>>
>> Roy
>>
>
>
> Roy,
>
> Thanks for the reply. I just find that some of the language on Cone's
> site a bit less than clear.
>
> I am aware of the upgrading with QTR, although I don't know exactly
> how to update other than just download the newest version, which I
> have done. (I see Cone's profiles there and am ordering the K7's
> today!). I believe somewhere you said that you don't keep records of
> who buys or doesn't buy your software so what's to determine if I am
> upgrading or just downloading?
>
> Cheers
>
> Jules
>

Hi Jules,

Yes, upgrading is just downloading the newest version.
I actually do keep the names of those who pay but there isn't a 
registration
in the software.

Roy

-
Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2006, at 07:12  AM, lulalake_1999 wrote:
> 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jules,
> >>
> >> The inks and the software/profiles are completely separate -- the
> > inks
> >> from Cone and the software from me.  The profiles were made by 
Cone
> >> but they are downloaded with the software for ease of 
installation
> > and
> >> use.
> >>
> >> One purchase of the QTR software entitles you to updates of the
> > software
> >> which incidentally also gives you updates of the profiles.
> >>
> >> Roy
> >>
> >
> >
> > Roy,
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. I just find that some of the language on 
Cone's
> > site a bit less than clear.
> >
> > I am aware of the upgrading with QTR, although I don't know 
exactly
> > how to update other than just download the newest version, which I
> > have done. (I see Cone's profiles there and am ordering the K7's
> > today!). I believe somewhere you said that you don't keep records 
of
> > who buys or doesn't buy your software so what's to determine if I 
am
> > upgrading or just downloading?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Jules
> >
> 
> Hi Jules,
> 
> Yes, upgrading is just downloading the newest version.
> I actually do keep the names of those who pay but there isn't a 
> registration
> in the software.
> 
> Roy
> 
> -

Thanks for the info Roy,
I was wondering how that worked.

Cheers

Jules