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curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag

2007-02-13 by symbolmaker33

Has anyone  created a curve for Hahnemuhle Photo Rag on the epson 2200
that they would be willing to share? In general, is there a sharing of
created curves?

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag

2007-02-14 by Brian Ellis

Have you tried the curves from the Hahnemuehle web site?  

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Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag


> Has anyone  created a curve for Hahnemuhle Photo Rag on the epson 2200
> that they would be willing to share? In general, is there a sharing of
> created curves?
> 
>

Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag

2007-02-14 by Joost Horsten

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Brian Ellis <bellis60@...> wrote:
>
> Have you tried the curves from the Hahnemuehle web site?  
> 

I know there are icc-profiles on the Hahnemuehle website, but do they 
have B&W QTR curves as well???

> In general, is there a sharing of
> > created curves?
> > 

Check the "files" location of this group. If that fails as well, you 
could try using the Epson Archival/Enhanced Matte. EEM prints very 
similar to Photo Rag.

Joost

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag

2007-02-14 by Brian Ellis

>I know there are icc-profiles on >the Hahnemuehle website, but do >they
>have B&W QTR curves as well???

Not that I know of. Was he asking about QTR? If so I missed that, I just 
thought he might want to try the profiles from the Hahnemuhle web site.

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From: "Joost Horsten" <j.h.j.h@...>
To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:27 AM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag


> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Brian Ellis <bellis60@...> wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried the curves from the Hahnemuehle web site?
>>
>
> I know there are icc-profiles on the Hahnemuehle website, but do they
> have B&W QTR curves as well???
>
>> In general, is there a sharing of
>> > created curves?
>> >
>
> Check the "files" location of this group. If that fails as well, you
> could try using the Epson Archival/Enhanced Matte. EEM prints very
> similar to Photo Rag.
>
> Joost
>
>
>

TR

2007-02-14 by symbolmaker33

I asked the original question. Sorry I didn't specify-- I was asking
about curves for QTR. (I know about the Hahnemuhle web site- - they
have profiles for standard printers & their papers, not QTR). There is
a QTR curve for Hahnemuhle Photorag for the epson 4000, but not for
the 2200 which is what I was asking about. 
Also, what is the advantage of QTR curves over duotone or tritone
presets within Photoshop? (They can be tweaked as well by pulling up
the curve for each color).
Very interested in all responses. (he is a she- me)





--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Brian Ellis <bellis60@...> wrote:
>
> >I know there are icc-profiles on >the Hahnemuehle website, but do >they
> >have B&W QTR curves as well???
> 
> Not that I know of. Was he asking about QTR? If so I missed that, I
just 
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> thought he might want to try the profiles from the Hahnemuhle web site.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joost Horsten" <j.h.j.h@...>
> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:27 AM
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag
> 
> 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Brian Ellis <bellis60@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Have you tried the curves from the Hahnemuehle web site?
> >>
> >
> > I know there are icc-profiles on the Hahnemuehle website, but do they
> > have B&W QTR curves as well???
> >
> >> In general, is there a sharing of
> >> > created curves?
> >> >
> >
> > Check the "files" location of this group. If that fails as well, you
> > could try using the Epson Archival/Enhanced Matte. EEM prints very
> > similar to Photo Rag.
> >
> > Joost
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag

2007-02-15 by Brian Ellis

Some of us receive email from more than one group. The bulk of mine come 
from the Yahoo b&w printing group. I didn't happen to notice that this one 
came from the QTR group and QTR wasn't mentioned in the body of the message. 
Sorry if that bothered you, hope it didn't mess up your day too badly.
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From: "Mark Savoia" <mark@...>
To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag


> This IS the group for QTR, right?
>
> On Feb 14, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Brian Ellis wrote:
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>> Was he asking about QTR?
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Re: TR

2007-02-15 by Joost Horsten

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "symbolmaker33" <mbfranklin@...> 
wrote:

> Also, what is the advantage of QTR curves over duotone or tritone
> presets within Photoshop? (They can be tweaked as well by pulling up
> the curve for each color).
> Very interested in all responses. (he is a she- me)

Using the duotone process (at least as I know it) in PS in 
combination with a printer like the 2100/2200 needs a color or "tri-
tone" -low gamut inkset like UT3D plus icc-profiling (PrintFixPro is 
often advocated for this in the DBWTP group). The advantage of this 
would be to have a monitor soft-proofing capability.

For me, the advantage of the QTR approach is that you have absolutely 
great control over the ink choice (any inkset can be supported) and 
curves (e.g. you can to great extent to get the ultimate Dmax or 
smoothness). 

Furhtermore, the workflow is just different and that's very much a 
matter of taste. I prefer to split my attention to first focus myself 
getting the best possible B&W in PS and only then add the toning 
during printing.

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag

2007-02-15 by Mark Savoia

Brian,
Sorry that came across as a wise ass comment, it was not meant to.
Mark
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On Feb 14, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Brian Ellis wrote:

> Some of us receive email from more than one group. The bulk of mine  
> come
> from the Yahoo b&w printing group. I didn't happen to notice that  
> this one
> came from the QTR group and QTR wasn't mentioned in the body of the  
> message.
> Sorry if that bothered you, hope it didn't mess up your day too badly.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Savoia" <mark@...>
> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag
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>> This IS the group for QTR, right?
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>> On Feb 14, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Brian Ellis wrote:
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>>> Was he asking about QTR?
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag

2007-02-16 by Bob K.

i found these on my system.  they should work.  if so, let's put them on the group page.
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  From: Mark Savoia 
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  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:07 AM
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  Brian,
  Sorry that came across as a wise ass comment, it was not meant to.
  Mark

  On Feb 14, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Brian Ellis wrote:

  > Some of us receive email from more than one group. The bulk of mine 
  > come
  > from the Yahoo b&w printing group. I didn't happen to notice that 
  > this one
  > came from the QTR group and QTR wasn't mentioned in the body of the 
  > message.
  > Sorry if that bothered you, hope it didn't mess up your day too badly.
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Mark Savoia" <mark@...>
  > To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:19 AM
  > Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: curves for Hahnemuhle Photorag
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  >> This IS the group for QTR, right?
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  >> On Feb 14, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Brian Ellis wrote:
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  >>> Was he asking about QTR?
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