QTR-Quadtone RIP

Currently I am using an R1800 with the standard Ultrachrome inkset and 
Matt Chapin's curves with both Kirkland Glossy and Ilford Pearl paper 
and haveing satisfactory resluts.  The small amount of bronzing is not 
an issue when the prints are mounted in my album. 

I also have an older R220 and am not quite ready to devote it to black 
only printing, but am getting close. 

I noticed that under the GQ curve set there were four curves that did 
not have a GQ in front of them.  They were R200 cool, neutral, platnim, 
and warm.  Are these four curves for use with Epson inks?  If so, with 
which type of paper, matte or gloss or luster?  

If so, I am interested in trying them to compare the inkset with the 
bronzing issue before going full bore with MIS or Joe Cone's inkset. 

Please advise. 

Alan Tochterman

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Tochterman" <alantochterman@...> wrote:
>
> Currently I am using an R1800 with the standard Ultrachrome inkset and 
> Matt Chapin's curves with both Kirkland Glossy and Ilford Pearl paper 
> and haveing satisfactory resluts.  The small amount of bronzing is not 
> an issue when the prints are mounted in my album. 
> 
> I also have an older R220 and am not quite ready to devote it to black 
> only printing, but am getting close. 
> 
> I noticed that under the GQ curve set there were four curves that did 
> not have a GQ in front of them.  They were R200 cool, neutral, platnim, 
> and warm.  Are these four curves for use with Epson inks?  If so, with 
> which type of paper, matte or gloss or luster?  
> 
> If so, I am interested in trying them to compare the inkset with the 
> bronzing issue before going full bore with MIS or Joe Cone's inkset. 
> 
> Please advise. 
> 
> Alan Tochterman
>Those curves are not to be used with the Cone K6 inkset --R220 works well with the 
Cone K6 inkset, great neutral prints using the  K6 R200 print model and the K6 curves 
provided in QTR - on matte papers (I think that there are five or six choices) - no 
bronzing at all- paper tone does have an effect and you should experiment to find out 
what you like - The Cone curves will work for other papers - ie - The curve for bradford 
natural works wonderfully for hawkmountain merlin.  Only thing to watch out for is paper 
feeding issues - printing papers coated on both sides tend to make the feed roller 
slick/slippery - and cause mis feeds - roller can be cleaned with a cue tip and 91% 
alchohol - even then, thicker papers may need to be coaxed a bit.

Berel Lutsky

Thank you for the clairification. 

So far I have had terrible luck with Epson matte paper.  No matter 
what I do, I can not obtain a good black.  All I am able to produce 
is dark shades of low contrast images, no matter what the setting I 
use. 

Where I live the Epson Ultra Premium paper is unavailable, so I am 
using the Premium Presentation paper with Roy's standard curves.  I 
do not know what I am doing wrong.  As I mentioned, the images 
produced with Matt Chapin's cool curve are quite good, without having 
to convert the printer (r1800) to black only. 

If I am going to dedicate a machine, it may be time to invest in a 
used 2100.

Thanks




--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Berel Lutsky" <berel.lutsky@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Tochterman" 
<alantochterman@> wrote:
> >
> > Currently I am using an R1800 with the standard Ultrachrome 
inkset and 
> > Matt Chapin's curves with both Kirkland Glossy and Ilford Pearl 
paper 
> > and haveing satisfactory resluts.  The small amount of bronzing 
is not 
> > an issue when the prints are mounted in my album. 
> > 
> > I also have an older R220 and am not quite ready to devote it to 
black 
> > only printing, but am getting close. 
> > 
> > I noticed that under the GQ curve set there were four curves that 
did 
> > not have a GQ in front of them.  They were R200 cool, neutral, 
platnim, 
> > and warm.  Are these four curves for use with Epson inks?  If so, 
with 
> > which type of paper, matte or gloss or luster?  
> > 
> > If so, I am interested in trying them to compare the inkset with 
the 
> > bronzing issue before going full bore with MIS or Joe Cone's 
inkset. 
> > 
> > Please advise. 
> > 
> > Alan Tochterman
> >Those curves are not to be used with the Cone K6 inkset --R220 
works well with the 
> Cone K6 inkset, great neutral prints using the  K6 R200 print model 
and the K6 curves 
> provided in QTR - on matte papers (I think that there are five or 
six choices) - no 
> bronzing at all- paper tone does have an effect and you should 
experiment to find out 
> what you like - The Cone curves will work for other papers - ie - 
The curve for bradford 
> natural works wonderfully for hawkmountain merlin.  Only thing to 
watch out for is paper 
> feeding issues - printing papers coated on both sides tend to make 
the feed roller 
> slick/slippery - and cause mis feeds - roller can be cleaned with a 
cue tip and 91% 

> alchohol - even then, thicker papers may need to be coaxed a bit.
> 
> Berel Lutsky
>