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Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-02-03 by hhchapman4104

Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
See this example using the supplied QTR  Ilford Smooth Pearl profile printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue line from CS5:
http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/

I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5 but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.

I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to enable using CS5?

Thank you!

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-02-03 by Michael King

are you on Windows or Mac ? The printing issues are on the Mac.

On 3 February 2011 01:08, hhchapman4104 <hchapman@...> wrote:

>
>
> Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I
> print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my
> color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
> See this example using the supplied QTR Ilford Smooth Pearl profile
> printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One
> spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue
> line from CS5:
> http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
> Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
> http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
>
> I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5
> but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
>
> I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to
> enable using CS5?
>
> Thank you!
>
>  
>


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Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-02-03 by hhchapman4104

I'm on a Mac, current operating system.
-Harlan
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Michael King <drmrking@...> wrote:
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>
> are you on Windows or Mac ? The printing issues are on the Mac.
> 
> On 3 February 2011 01:08, hhchapman4104 <hchapman@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I
> > print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my
> > color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
> > See this example using the supplied QTR Ilford Smooth Pearl profile
> > printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One
> > spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue
> > line from CS5:
> > http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
> > Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
> > http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
> >
> > I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5
> > but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
> >
> > I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to
> > enable using CS5?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-02-03 by Andrew Darlow

Hi:

I'm guessing you know that the way the print dialog works is different. You should definitely save a Preset when you click on Print Settings as the settings might not be sticking.

I wrote an article about it here:

http://www.pixiq.com/article/how-to-navigate-changes-to-the-print-dialog-box-in-photoshop-cs5

Hope that helps,

Andrew

Andrew Darlow
Editor, The Imaging Buffet
http://www.imagingbuffet.com
Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com
and
Pet Photography 101: 
Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com
http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow





On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:08 PM, hhchapman4104 wrote:

> Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
> See this example using the supplied QTR Ilford Smooth Pearl profile printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue line from CS5:
> http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
> Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
> http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
> 
> I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5 but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
> 
> I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to enable using CS5?
> 
> Thank you!
> 






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Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-02-04 by hhchapman4104

Hello Andrew,
I don't believe the problem is the print settings between CS3 and CS5. I appreciate your suggestion though.
-Harlan
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow <ad@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi:
> 
> I'm guessing you know that the way the print dialog works is different. You should definitely save a Preset when you click on Print Settings as the settings might not be sticking.
> 
> I wrote an article about it here:
> 
> http://www.pixiq.com/article/how-to-navigate-changes-to-the-print-dialog-box-in-photoshop-cs5
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> Andrew Darlow
> Editor, The Imaging Buffet
> http://www.imagingbuffet.com
> Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
> An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com
> and
> Pet Photography 101: 
> Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com
> http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:08 PM, hhchapman4104 wrote:
> 
> > Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
> > See this example using the supplied QTR Ilford Smooth Pearl profile printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue line from CS5:
> > http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
> > Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
> > http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
> > 
> > I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5 but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
> > 
> > I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to enable using CS5?
> > 
> > Thank you!
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-02-04 by Roy Harrington

CS4 or CS5 along with OSX 10.5 or 10.6 have a problem doing grayscale.
What happens is that no matter what selections you make in PS the OS always
converts whatever you send it to a fixed profile.   In 10.5 its
Generic Gray which
is a gamma 1.8 profile.  In 10.6 its a new profile called Generic Gray Gamma 2.2
which you'd think was a gamma 2.2 curve but its not.  The little glitch you see
in the graphs is exactly the conversion of Gray Gamma 2.2 to Generic GG 2.2.

Using CS3 is the easiest workaround currently.

Roy
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On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:31 PM, hhchapman4104 <hchapman@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Andrew,
> I don't believe the problem is the print settings between CS3 and CS5. I appreciate your suggestion though.
> -Harlan
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow <ad@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I'm guessing you know that the way the print dialog works is different. You should definitely save a Preset when you click on Print Settings as the settings might not be sticking.
>>
>> I wrote an article about it here:
>>
>> http://www.pixiq.com/article/how-to-navigate-changes-to-the-print-dialog-box-in-photoshop-cs5
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> Andrew Darlow
>> Editor, The Imaging Buffet
>> http://www.imagingbuffet.com
>> Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
>> An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com
>> and
>> Pet Photography 101:
>> Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com
>> http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:08 PM, hhchapman4104 wrote:
>>
>> > Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
>> > See this example using the supplied QTR Ilford Smooth Pearl profile printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue line from CS5:
>> > http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
>> > Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
>> > http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
>> >
>> > I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5 but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
>> >
>> > I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to enable using CS5?
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-02-04 by Kees

> Using CS3 is the easiest workaround currently.

So every grayscale file is converted by the OS? Not good.

And what about a RGB workaround then for black and white? If the chosen (RGB) printing profile in photoshop is the same as the attached (RGB) profile in the file either photoshop and the OS leave it untouched as far as I know. Or am I wrong?

Kees

Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-02-04 by hhchapman4104

Thank you Roy!
-Harlan

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> CS4 or CS5 along with OSX 10.5 or 10.6 have a problem doing grayscale.
> What happens is that no matter what selections you make in PS the OS always
> converts whatever you send it to a fixed profile.   In 10.5 its
> Generic Gray which
> is a gamma 1.8 profile.  In 10.6 its a new profile called Generic Gray Gamma 2.2
> which you'd think was a gamma 2.2 curve but its not.  The little glitch you see
> in the graphs is exactly the conversion of Gray Gamma 2.2 to Generic GG 2.2.
> 
> Using CS3 is the easiest workaround currently.
> 
> Roy
>

Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-02-11 by piezobw

I do not know if this workflow can help you or not. This method works with our Gamma 2.2 concentric workflow for PiezographyK7 QTR process with >=CS4. It matches the CS3 output.

You can check this for more details:

http://www.piezography.com/PiezoPress/blog/calibration/printing-images-from-photoshop-cs4/

regards,

Jon Cone
Piezography


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "hhchapman4104" <hchapman@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
> See this example using the supplied QTR  Ilford Smooth Pearl profile printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue line from CS5:
> http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
> Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
> http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
> 
> I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5 but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
> 
> I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to enable using CS5?
> 
> Thank you!
>

Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-05-04 by Bob

Is there any other solution than using cs3?  I use cs5 and I was considering using qtr until I read this message.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> CS4 or CS5 along with OSX 10.5 or 10.6 have a problem doing grayscale.
> What happens is that no matter what selections you make in PS the OS always
> converts whatever you send it to a fixed profile.   In 10.5 its
> Generic Gray which
> is a gamma 1.8 profile.  In 10.6 its a new profile called Generic Gray Gamma 2.2
> which you'd think was a gamma 2.2 curve but its not.  The little glitch you see
> in the graphs is exactly the conversion of Gray Gamma 2.2 to Generic GG 2.2.
> 
> Using CS3 is the easiest workaround currently.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:31 PM, hhchapman4104 <hchapman@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello Andrew,
> > I don't believe the problem is the print settings between CS3 and CS5. I appreciate your suggestion though.
> > -Harlan
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow <ad@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi:
> >>
> >> I'm guessing you know that the way the print dialog works is different. You should definitely save a Preset when you click on Print Settings as the settings might not be sticking.
> >>
> >> I wrote an article about it here:
> >>
> >> http://www.pixiq.com/article/how-to-navigate-changes-to-the-print-dialog-box-in-photoshop-cs5
> >>
> >> Hope that helps,
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> Andrew Darlow
> >> Editor, The Imaging Buffet
> >> http://www.imagingbuffet.com
> >> Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
> >> An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com
> >> and
> >> Pet Photography 101:
> >> Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com
> >> http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:08 PM, hhchapman4104 wrote:
> >>
> >> > Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
> >> > See this example using the supplied QTR Ilford Smooth Pearl profile printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue line from CS5:
> >> > http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
> >> > Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
> >> > http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
> >> >
> >> > I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5 but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
> >> >
> >> > I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to enable using CS5?
> >> >
> >> > Thank you!
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-05-04 by Walker Blackwell

CS5 v12.01 / 10.6.6 / QTR 7 and Create-ICC works. I can confirm that.

All the best,
Walker



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On Tuesday, May 3, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Bob wrote: 
> Is there any other solution than using cs3? I use cs5 and I was considering using qtr until I read this message.
> 
>  --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
> >
> > CS4 or CS5 along with OSX 10.5 or 10.6 have a problem doing grayscale.
> > What happens is that no matter what selections you make in PS the OS always
> > converts whatever you send it to a fixed profile. In 10.5 its
> > Generic Gray which
> > is a gamma 1.8 profile. In 10.6 its a new profile called Generic Gray Gamma 2.2
> > which you'd think was a gamma 2.2 curve but its not. The little glitch you see
> > in the graphs is exactly the conversion of Gray Gamma 2.2 to Generic GG 2.2.
> > 
> > Using CS3 is the easiest workaround currently.
> > 
> > Roy
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:31 PM, hhchapman4104 <hchapman@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Andrew,
> > > I don't believe the problem is the print settings between CS3 and CS5. I appreciate your suggestion though.
> > > -Harlan
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow <ad@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi:
> > >>
> > >> I'm guessing you know that the way the print dialog works is different. You should definitely save a Preset when you click on Print Settings as the settings might not be sticking.
> > >>
> > >> I wrote an article about it here:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.pixiq.com/article/how-to-navigate-changes-to-the-print-dialog-box-in-photoshop-cs5
> > >>
> > >> Hope that helps,
> > >>
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >> Andrew Darlow
> > >> Editor, The Imaging Buffet
> > >> http://www.imagingbuffet.com
> > >> Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
> > >> An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com
> > >> and
> > >> Pet Photography 101:
> > >> Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com
> > >> http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:08 PM, hhchapman4104 wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
> > >> > See this example using the supplied QTR Ilford Smooth Pearl profile printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue line from CS5:
> > >> > http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
> > >> > Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
> > >> > http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
> > >> >
> > >> > I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5 but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
> > >> >
> > >> > I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to enable using CS5?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thank you!
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
>  



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Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-05-04 by Lutsky, Berel

Sometimes using one of the best BW printing  solutions out there demands a bit of inconvenience - (and it is a small one ) workflow is Image worked in CS5>flatten and save a print version as a tif >open the image in CS3>print - I work with PC's at school, MAC at home  - PC workflow leaves Photoshop altogether to print - and  in truth, is  a much cleaner  and straight forward interface - with QTR - than OSX (go figure) -  - and a minor inconvenience but worth it -

Berel Lutsky
Associate Professor of Art
University of Wisconsin - Manitowoc
blutsky@...<mailto:blutsky@...>
920-683-4735
Fax: 920-683-4776
"Sometimes our ideas of history look more like neurosis than an appetite for understanding ...."
Charles  Bowden



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Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2011-11-13 by David

Hi,
   Can anyone say whether there has been any improvement in this situation? I am still using CS 2, and am interested in upgrading to CS 4 or 5, but only if one or the other can be used easily with QTR.

Thanks,
David

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> CS4 or CS5 along with OSX 10.5 or 10.6 have a problem doing grayscale.
> What happens is that no matter what selections you make in PS the OS always
> converts whatever you send it to a fixed profile.   In 10.5 its
> Generic Gray which
> is a gamma 1.8 profile.  In 10.6 its a new profile called Generic Gray Gamma 2.2
> which you'd think was a gamma 2.2 curve but its not.  The little glitch you see
> in the graphs is exactly the conversion of Gray Gamma 2.2 to Generic GG 2.2.
> 
> Using CS3 is the easiest workaround currently.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:31 PM, hhchapman4104 <hchapman@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello Andrew,
> > I don't believe the problem is the print settings between CS3 and CS5. I appreciate your suggestion though.
> > -Harlan
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow <ad@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi:
> >>
> >> I'm guessing you know that the way the print dialog works is different. You should definitely save a Preset when you click on Print Settings as the settings might not be sticking.
> >>
> >> I wrote an article about it here:
> >>
> >> http://www.pixiq.com/article/how-to-navigate-changes-to-the-print-dialog-box-in-photoshop-cs5
> >>
> >> Hope that helps,
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> Andrew Darlow
> >> Editor, The Imaging Buffet
> >> http://www.imagingbuffet.com
> >> Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
> >> An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com
> >> and
> >> Pet Photography 101:
> >> Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com
> >> http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:08 PM, hhchapman4104 wrote:
> >>
> >> > Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
> >> > See this example using the supplied QTR Ilford Smooth Pearl profile printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue line from CS5:
> >> > http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
> >> > Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
> >> > http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
> >> >
> >> > I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5 but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
> >> >
> >> > I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to enable using CS5?
> >> >
> >> > Thank you!
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2012-01-03 by Skip

I currently use CS5 with osx 10.6.8 and piezography k7 inks.  When printing something like the QTR 21 step grey scale  file from PS using John Cone's instructions for QTR I always see non-linearity at the > 92% grey levels. John' printing directions provide the best way to circumvent the color mangement problems with osx and k7 inks.  I have solved this problem by using Parallels 7 and the QTR stand alone printing program for Windows.  I use Windows 7.  I get very linear responses with k7 inks using this approach.  It's not the cheapest fix but it does solve the linearity problem.  I got this idea from reading John's blog where he said that while they are Mac-centric they use Windows PC's to run their printers.  

I hope this helps. 

Skip  
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "David" <dpgoldenberg33@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi,
>    Can anyone say whether there has been any improvement in this situation? I am still using CS 2, and am interested in upgrading to CS 4 or 5, but only if one or the other can be used easily with QTR.
> 
> Thanks,
> David
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@> wrote:
> >
> > CS4 or CS5 along with OSX 10.5 or 10.6 have a problem doing grayscale.
> > What happens is that no matter what selections you make in PS the OS always
> > converts whatever you send it to a fixed profile.   In 10.5 its
> > Generic Gray which
> > is a gamma 1.8 profile.  In 10.6 its a new profile called Generic Gray Gamma 2.2
> > which you'd think was a gamma 2.2 curve but its not.  The little glitch you see
> > in the graphs is exactly the conversion of Gray Gamma 2.2 to Generic GG 2.2.
> > 
> > Using CS3 is the easiest workaround currently.
> > 
> > Roy
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:31 PM, hhchapman4104 <hchapman@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Andrew,
> > > I don't believe the problem is the print settings between CS3 and CS5. I appreciate your suggestion though.
> > > -Harlan
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow <ad@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi:
> > >>
> > >> I'm guessing you know that the way the print dialog works is different. You should definitely save a Preset when you click on Print Settings as the settings might not be sticking.
> > >>
> > >> I wrote an article about it here:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.pixiq.com/article/how-to-navigate-changes-to-the-print-dialog-box-in-photoshop-cs5
> > >>
> > >> Hope that helps,
> > >>
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >> Andrew Darlow
> > >> Editor, The Imaging Buffet
> > >> http://www.imagingbuffet.com
> > >> Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
> > >> An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http://www.inkjettips.com
> > >> and
> > >> Pet Photography 101:
> > >> Tips for Taking Better Photos of Your Dog or Cat - http://www.PhotoPetTips.com
> > >> http://facebook.com/andrewdarlow
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:08 PM, hhchapman4104 wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Printing with linearized QTR profiles in CS3 works fine for me. When I print the same file in CS5 the dark values are off. I am consistent in my color management (all gray gamma 2.2) and print set up.
> > >> > See this example using the supplied QTR Ilford Smooth Pearl profile printing a 21 step wedge and reading LAB L with an Eye-One spectrophotometer. The red line is the print from Photoshop CS3, the blue line from CS5:
> > >> > http://img40.imageshack.us/f/cs3vscs5.jpg/
> > >> > Here is the Photoshop print dialog from CS5:
> > >> > http://img821.imageshack.us/i/cs5printdailog.jpg/
> > >> >
> > >> > I'd heard rumblings in the past about possible issues with printing in CS5 but my poor searching skills didn't turn anything up on this in this forum.
> > >> >
> > >> > I can continue to print in CS3 but was wondering if there was a fix to enable using CS5?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thank you!
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2012-01-08 by David

Skip,
   Thanks for the reply, but definitely not the answer I was hoping for!

David

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Skip" <skshimer@...> wrote:
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> 
> I currently use CS5 with osx 10.6.8 and piezography k7 inks.  When printing something like the QTR 21 step grey scale  file from PS using John Cone's instructions for QTR I always see non-linearity at the > 92% grey levels. John' printing directions provide the best way to circumvent the color mangement problems with osx and k7 inks.  I have solved this problem by using Parallels 7 and the QTR stand alone printing program for Windows.  I use Windows 7.  I get very linear responses with k7 inks using this approach.  It's not the cheapest fix but it does solve the linearity problem.  I got this idea from reading John's blog where he said that while they are Mac-centric they use Windows PC's to run their printers.  
> 
> I hope this helps. 
> 
> Skip

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3

2012-01-08 by Jim Thyer

David,

I recollect (but not from where) recently reading of problems in CS5 of printing and turning off "Printer manages colour" option to use your own profiles.

There is a long article on CS5 Colour Management at 

http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps12_colour/ps12_1.htm

which may help.

I also recollect there is an add on program for CS5 to get around the problem.  Not running CS5 I did not keep the details, unfortunately.

Hope this is a help.

Jim Thyer
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David 
  To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:30 AM
  Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Printing with CS5 vs CS3


    
  Skip,
  Thanks for the reply, but definitely not the answer I was hoping for!

  David

  --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Skip" <skshimer@...> wrote:
  >
  > 
  > I currently use CS5 with osx 10.6.8 and piezography k7 inks. When printing something like the QTR 21 step grey scale file from PS using John Cone's instructions for QTR I always see non-linearity at the > 92% grey levels. John' printing directions provide the best way to circumvent the color mangement problems with osx and k7 inks. I have solved this problem by using Parallels 7 and the QTR stand alone printing program for Windows. I use Windows 7. I get very linear responses with k7 inks using this approach. It's not the cheapest fix but it does solve the linearity problem. I got this idea from reading John's blog where he said that while they are Mac-centric they use Windows PC's to run their printers. 
  > 
  > I hope this helps. 
  > 
  > Skip 



  

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