All about the Roland Jupiter-series

From: david [mailto:dj.suurland@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 1:09 AM
To: analogue@...
Subject: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?


hi there,
well like i said i got my jupiter 8 yesterday and i've been fiddling with it
quite a bit, the Bb5 key is suddenly working again (which doesnt mean its
fixed, rather it can fail again at any given time probably when its most
unconvenient) but i've got a question.
is it me or is the jup8 not all its said to be. now dont get me wrong i
bought it cheap and was planning to sell it to make a buck to put in my
"cs-80 savings account", i didnt expect anything in particular but after
cheking the internet and seeing al the hype i got hyped myself too. anywyz,
i love the strings, cross mod is cool too and it can make some huge  sounds
too, good enough.
but i cant seem to produce a decent lead, and when im programming i seem to
run into the same sounds pretty often even though im trying all kinds of
different modulations.
what am i doing wrong.?? is the jup8 limited to a certain spectrum or am i
beeing a dork, i know my way around a z1 pretty ok, so i dont think i lack
imagination when it comes down to trying new ways of making  noise. any
ideas ?

From: Enmach@... [mailto:Enmach@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 7:07 AM
To: dj.suurland@...; analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?


In a message dated 3/24/01 7:05:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
dj.suurland@... writes:

<< but i cant seem to produce a decent lead, 

try approximating one of your previously existing decent leads on the JP8; 
perhaps there are certain techniques you are used to from your own synths 
that you've yet to try on the 8.
>
Also, so you can hear what kinds of lead the 8 is capable of, try digging up

a Devo tune called "Theme from 'Doctor Detroit'".  This was a dumb 80s flick

w/Dan Ackroyd and Howard Hesseman.  There's a lead line that sounds a lot 
like a lap steel guitar which is reputedly Mark Mothersbough twiddling that 
left hand controller section.  Never mind these italics, I don't know how 
that happened.  Also, most of Devo's NEW TRADITIONALISTS was done on JP8 and

Moog Source, so there's some other (admittedly dated) points of reference.

PAT

From: royce [mailto:rrooyyccee@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:14 AM
To: david; analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?


I don't think you are imagining what you are noticing.
 The jp8 doesn't cover every sound all that well, and
I actually find myself using the jp6 a bit more. 
"Lead" probably means different things to different
people. . . but I do notice that for monophonic parts,
many monosynths in general seem to do a little better
than the jp8.

These may be empty suggestions but keeping the
resonance low, using the 12dB filter, using unison
with a very good analogue chorus, and using tube
saturation bring out some of the 8's strengths.  I
find the juptier 8's strength doesn't really lie in
its flexibility, but in the overall character of its
sounds, which you may or may not like.

royce

--- david <dj.suurland@...> wrote:
> hi there,
> well like i said i got my jupiter 8 yesterday and
> i've been fiddling with it quite a bit, the Bb5 key
> is suddenly working again (which doesnt mean its
> fixed, rather it can fail again at any given time
> probably when its most unconvenient) but i've got a
> question.
> is it me or is the jup8 not all its said to be. now
> dont get me wrong i bought it cheap and was planning
> to sell it to make a buck to put in my "cs-80
> savings account", i didnt expect anything in
> particular but after cheking the internet and seeing
> al the hype i got hyped myself too. anywyz, i love
> the strings, cross mod is cool too and it can make
> some huge  sounds too, good enough.
> but i cant seem to produce a decent lead, and when
> im programming i seem to run into the same sounds
> pretty often even though im trying all kinds of
> different modulations.
> what am i doing wrong.?? is the jup8 limited to a
> certain spectrum or am i beeing a dork, i know my
> way around a z1 pretty ok, so i dont think i lack
> imagination when it comes down to trying new ways of
> making  noise. any ideas ?
> 


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From: MoogIIIc@... [mailto:MoogIIIc@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Enmach@...; analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?


In a message dated 3/24/01 10:07:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
Enmach@... writes:

<< Also, so you can hear what kinds of lead the 8 is capable of, try digging

up 
 a Devo tune called "Theme from 'Doctor Detroit'".  This was a dumb 80s
flick 
 w/Dan Ackroyd and Howard Hesseman.   >>

It may have been a dumb flick, but I laughed my A** off for the whole
time... 
makes me wanna go rent it again just for the yucks !!!

Markk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: david [mailto:dj.suurland@...]
> Sent: 25 March 2001 00:09
> To: analogue@...
> Subject: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?
> 
> 
> hi there,
> well like i said i got my jupiter 8 yesterday and i've been 
> fiddling with it quite a bit, the Bb5 key is suddenly working 
> again (which doesnt mean its fixed, rather it can fail again 
> at any given time probably when its most unconvenient) but 
> i've got a question.
> is it me or is the jup8 not all its said to be. now dont get 
> me wrong i bought it cheap and was planning to sell it to 
> make a buck to put in my "cs-80 savings account", i didnt 
> expect anything in particular but after cheking the internet 
> and seeing al the hype i got hyped myself too. anywyz, i love 
> the strings, cross mod is cool too and it can make some huge  
> sounds too, good enough.
> but i cant seem to produce a decent lead, and when im 
> programming i seem to run into the same sounds pretty often 
> even though im trying all kinds of different modulations.
> what am i doing wrong.?? is the jup8 limited to a certain 
> spectrum or am i beeing a dork, i know my way around a z1 
> pretty ok, so i dont think i lack imagination when it comes 
> down to trying new ways of making  noise. any ideas ?
>

From: Marzzz@... [mailto:Marzzz@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 5:06 PM
To: analogue@...
Subject: Re: [AH] ehhhhhhhh...guys ?



In a message dated 3/25/01 5:13:04 AM, MoogIIIc@... writes:

>a Devo tune called "Theme from 'Doctor Detroit'".  This was a dumb 80s
>flick  w/Dan Ackroyd and Howard Hesseman.  
>
>It may have been a dumb flick, but I laughed my A** off for the whole
time...
>makes me wanna go rent it again just for the yucks !!!

The closing credits promised a "Doctor Detroit II: The Wrath of Mom." I wish

they had filmed it, Doctor Detroit was one of those great dumb movies. Even 
Fran Drescher (The Nanny- yech!) was funny in it.

-Marshall