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2001-10-26 by Verschut, Ricardo
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From: John Tennant [mailto:john@...] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:27 AM To: analogue@... Subject: [AH] Jupiters What are the differences between the Juptier-6 and the Juptier-8? Is it just polyphony? Or is there a sonic difference as well? John
2001-10-26 by Verschut, Ricardo
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From: Hanstein Rommerud [mailto:mine@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:14 PM
To: John Tennant; analogue@...
Subject: SV: [AH] Jupiters
First of all the polyphony, but also, the Jupter 6 had MIDI. When it comes
to sonic differences.. I guess there is ;P heh, sorry, I don't know much
about it, but the Jupiter 8 has become more famous than the Jupiter 6, so..
I guess so..
Hanstein
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From: John Tennant <john@...>
To: <analogue@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:26 AM
Subject: [AH] Jupiters
> What are the differences between the Juptier-6 and the Juptier-8? Is it
just> polyphony? Or is there a sonic difference as well? > > John > >
2001-10-26 by Verschut, Ricardo
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From: lucid [mailto:digitallucid@...] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:24 PM To: analogue@... Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiters on 10/25/01 2:26 AM, John Tennant at john@... wrote: > What are the differences between the Juptier-6 and the Juptier-8? Is it just > polyphony? Or is there a sonic difference as well? theres tons of this in the archives.. but i got a jupiter 8 not too long ago and noted a few differences. the jp8 has a stepped range pot that snaps by octaves on osc 1, i miss this on the jp6, i do alot of that on the fly. osc2 has a low freq mode which can make a nice rumble when used sonically. the filter, when 4pole, is smooth, can pull off basses with the best of them. its got no detune! its got a dual keymode, good for layering sounds and doing lame additive. the arp has a random mode, which everyone and their mother seems to have used. the performance LFO is the biggest joke, no rate control. the jp6 has got a few more features.. a detune knob, stackable waveforms, reversible sync, a multi-mode filter, a somewhat usable performance LFO.. just a few extra features that make it alot more flexible when building a patch. however, its got no dual mode. with europa its flexibility takes off. its not much of a bass machine though, and has a notorious amp env distortion which will only really show up when the the filter is low and the resonance is high, which is the way 95% of bass sounds are created. i would say... if youve got other synths that handle basses, the jp6 is a better buy.. the jp8 is better at being the more traditional synth, but i get a little bored with it.
2001-10-26 by Verschut, Ricardo
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From: Mike Kent [mailto:mikekent@...] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:34 PM To: Analogue Heaven AH Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiters >> What are the differences between the Juptier-6 and the Juptier-8? Is it just >> polyphony? Or is there a sonic difference as well? They have very similar architecture but are quite different in a number of regards. Most notable is the fact that they sound quite different from each other. > the jp8... > the performance LFO is the biggest joke, no rate control. The rate control is the LFO slider on the front panel (2nd slider from the left hand side). Regards, Mike. ________________________________________________........................... | Roland JUPITER-6 |PERSONAL: ................ |----------------------------------------------|mikekent@... .......... | O||:||:||:||O: OO: O :||:||| || :||||| ||||| |HOME PAGE: ............... |----------------------------------------------|homepage.mac.com/mikekent . |Ou Ou Ou O uuuu uuu uu uuuuuu uuuuuuuu u u O|........................... ||| oooo ___________________________________ |BUSINESS ................. |uu XX |UU|UUU|UU|UUU|UU|UUU|UU|UUU|UU|UUU|| |mikekent@... ... |_____==_|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_|........................... _________________________________===========___............................ | JUPITER-8 |PERSONAL: ................. |Roland ======================================|mikekent@... ........... | oo|-.||o||-|-|oo--oooo.|.||-|-|||.||||.||||.|HOME PAGE: ................ |---------------------------------------------|homepage.mac.com/mikekent .. | o oooo oooo ooo oo [8888] oooooooo oooooooo |............................ |...xx o ___________________________________ |BUSINESS .................. |||| == |UU|UUU|UU|UUU|UU|UUU|UU|UUU|UU|UUU|| |mikekent@... ... |_______|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_|............................
2001-10-26 by Verschut, Ricardo
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From: lucid [mailto:digitallucid@...] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:30 AM To: Mike Kent; Analogue Heaven AH Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiters > The rate control is the LFO slider on the front panel (2nd slider from the > left hand side). whoa. i missed that... so the big white button is just a switch to turn on the main LFO's sine wave to the corresponding sliders in the performance section.. or am i missing something else. the jp6 has 2 seperate LFOs then. i cant remember if you can assign that jp6 performance LFO to one VCO instead of both. my big white button seems to fall out of tune if you press too hard.. if its controlling VCOs and you move your finger around on it the pitch will waver. is this standard or is this another problem on my fix it list? thanks lucid
2001-10-26 by Verschut, Ricardo
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From: Mike Kent [mailto:mikekent@...] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:06 AM To: Analogue Heaven AH Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiters >> The rate control is the LFO slider on the front panel (2nd slider from the >> left hand side). > > whoa. i missed that... so the big white button is just a switch to turn on > the main LFO's... Correct. > my big white button seems to fall out of tune if you press too hard.. if its > controlling VCOs and you move your finger around on it the pitch will waver. > is this standard or is this another problem on my fix it list? Sounds like a bad contact in the "Big White Button". Hmmm... "Big White Button"... "Big Red Button" might be a fun name for a band. Regards, Mike. ___________=_=_=_________ ..................................... /-----____________________|=== ..PERSONAL: mikekent@............ |----| Electronic ..http://homepage.mac.com/mikekent... | OO Valve EVI ..................................... ==== Instrument ..BUSINESS: mikekent@..... .......................................................................
2001-10-26 by Verschut, Ricardo
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From: Ryan McWhorter [mailto:ryanmcwhorter@...] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 4:20 PM To: analogue@... Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiters > > >> What are the differences between the Juptier-6 and the Juptier-8? Is it >just > >> polyphony? Or is there a sonic difference as well? there's a couplo sites to check out via synth zone, like the daredevil page and others, as well as tons of reviews at sonic state/harmony central and the ah archives, but the two second version would be: the sonic difference is due to two things IMO- the jp8 has older custom osc boards and the jp6 uses CEM chips, the jp8 has only a resonant LPF and the standard roland HPF you find on the junos whereas the jp6 has a resonant multimode- many (myself included) feel its the jp6's multimode that distinguishes it from other synths. the resonance sounds different than standard cem filters and then throw in the cross mod feature and the jp6 is really different sounding, but without the balls of the 8. really two different synths. lots of other features are different- you know if you search in hyperreal music machines i think there's an old email that a/b compares the two in detail. I own a jp6. r. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
2001-10-29 by Verschut, Ricardo
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From: Enmach@... [mailto:Enmach@...] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:29 PM To: mikekent@... Cc: analogue@... Subject: Re: [AH] Jupiters (sorry if this has already been covered; my aol does not get all AH posts) Mike Kent asks: >> What are the differences between the Juptier-6 and the Juptier-8? Is it just >> polyphony? Or is there a sonic difference as well? BIG differences: -the JP8 can sound much more massive than the 6 -JP6 has multimode filters (LP & HP can be combined to form BP) -JP6 cross mod can be controlled via Env. 1 -JP6 can have multiple waveforms active on each VCO (great for aggressive crossmod effects) -JP6 envelopes and LFOs are generated in software, digitally controlled. This is early MIDI, so 64 steps. If you sweep slow enough, can hear 'stepping'. -JP6 has a slightly more 'nasal' character than 8, nonetheless a great sound, very capable in bass range -JP6 knobs somewhat less substantial in look and feel compared to 8 -JP6 has no 'random' arpeggiator mode -BOTH are built like tanks! So, do what I did - get 'em both!! Keep in mind: got JP8 in 1988 for $700, in need of overhaul. Got JP6 in 1992, $700, never ran totally in tune, but never severly out of tune. Every 2 - 3 years, JP8 needed power supply calibration and cleaning of all pots and sliders (contamination would cause false 'edit' messages). Sold both in 1998, had had my fun. I highly recommend either. PAT