All about the Roland Jupiter-series

From: Mike Peake <peake@...>
Subject: Re: [AH] CEM chips  ......not phat????
Message-Id: <f0510030eb8c83700f916@[65.138.112.74]>

At 2:55 AM +0000 3/28/02, Dran Zef wrote:
>Doesnt the OB-8 have CEM chips? as well as the JP-8...who said 
>anything with CEM chips have a thin sound.....or was that a typo?
>
>thanks

The JP8 has no CEMs in it IIRC. The OB8 does
(as does the OBXa, Xpander, Matrix 12).

You gotta hear the Four Voice before you
decide on anything CEM-related. CEMs have
a very specific sound that some like, and
some don't. I hate them...they sound unlike
the Legend gear (Four-Voice, CS-80, etc.)
Put an SEM against a Pro-One and be startled
by how thin the Pro-One sounds.

Your mileage may vary. Especially considering
the myriad possible interpretations of "phat"
versus Fat, which I am describing here. Plenty
of people like the Pro-One, and that's okay
too of course.
-- 
Mike Peake, Your Psychic Friend

From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
Subject: Re: [AH] CEM chips  ......not phat????
Message-ID: <006901c1d617$4e1e8760$71765140@...>

>
> Few would consider the memorymoog to be "thin", yet it has CEM 3340 VCO's,
> CEM 3340 LFO, CEM 3310 EG for BOTH VCA/VCF. It uses a 3080 for the VCA.
The
> only "discreet" component is the ladder filter(s).
>
>

Actually, the VCA is a CEM3360, as it is in the Jupiter 6, the Jupiter 8 and
the MKS80.

And certainly, CEM-based synths have a certain "sound" because they use true
grounded integrators
as opposed to state-variable filters with virtual ground integrators and
hence a different phase
response. Personally, state-variable filters have too much on an 'edge' for
my tastes. But that
doesn't mean they are "bad" just "different". Sort of like a clarinet and an
oboe.

But again we are arguing over the taste of beers.

Paul S.