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Re: QTKB response times

2003-02-02 by metafoetus2002 <jan-hinnerk.helms@t-onli

Hi John,

thanks for your answer.

This weekend I visited George Miller and his nice Serge (Blue Voice, Red
Control, TKB, all new STS panels). It was very moving to finally get my hands
on this beautiful system - thanks to George for his hospitality.

Two things puzzled me on his system:

First, comparing the unquantized and quantized signal as it controlled an
NTO through its 1V/Oct input revealed, that the QTKB's response times are
quite audible - as a short but noticeable portamento, even when using the
QTKB with the TKB as the input source.

Second I was a little bit disappointed with the scaling of the Decay and
Release times of the ADSR. As much as I appreciate a fine resolution of the
shorter Decay and Release times, I have to say that it surprised me that the
more noticeable changes in these times started occuring from 1 o'clock
upwards of the control setting, regardless of the curve switch setting.

Can anyone confirm these observations? And does anyone have experience
if the controls of the Modcan Envelope Generator 04A have the same scaling
problem?

BTW: As there is one lengthy thread in the SMOG archive regarding the
Modcan-Serge comparison, please let me state that my last question is not
meant to start a thread regarding if Modcan is copying Serge, nor am I stating
by my above question that Modcan is copying Serge or not.

In any case I have to get my own Serge. Soon.

Best regards
Jan-Hinnerk


--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, John Papiewski <
johnp299792@a...> wrote:

> As far as I know, the 8 ms settling time is a worst case thing for dithering.
> If what you're doing is using the QTKB to tune the TKB, then you won't have
> to worry about dithering. You'll set the pitch you want & it'll be in an 'easy'
> range for the quantizer to interpret. The worst case is when you're
> quantizing some other voltage (sample & hold for example) and it hits a
> voltage very close to the quantizer's threshold... it takes a tiny interval for the
> quantizer to decide what to output, and you hear this as a little hiccup. But
> for other intervals it's very fast ... I would have to say faster than 8 ms.
>
> The text of the catalog is pretty old. I think Rex did a redesign of the
> quantizers a while ago.
>
> Best,
>
> John P.
>
> "metafoetus2002 " wrote:
>
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "metafoetus2002 <jan-
> > hinnerk.helms@t...>" wrote:
> >
> > > Further question: Is the response time equal for all QTKB channels?
> > >
> > > If it is, is it possible to cure the assumed pitch glitch by using
> > > one QTKB channel to delay the gate signal that is used for clocking and
> > > gating?
> >
> > Sorry, it must of course read: Is it possible to cure the assumed pitch glitch
by
> > using one QTKB channel to delay the gate signal that is used for gating
(the
> > gate signal used for clocking the TKB should not be delayed)?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Jan-Hinnerk
> >
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> >
> > Keep on Patchin'!
> >
> >
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