Well, you know, I'm fascinated by the recurring
theme (and not just in Serge-land) of "you'd think
someone would manage to make a system that
decidedly outdoes Serge in a bunch of ways".
What kinds of things do people think would fill
the bill on this? Or is it just a vague feeling
that "since this stuff (Serge, or whatever is under
comment at the time) is old, something newer must
perforce be better/offer improvements"?
I'd sure be happy, or at least vastly interested,
to hear thoughts as to what would 'vasty improve'
the land of modular, or even analog, synthesis,
but... Lots of talk about how this "should" be
possible, "should" be happening, but precious little
(like no) concrete suggestions as to what would
fit the bill.
Anybody else see this, or am I once again off the
far end of the bell curve?
cheers,
Bill
"There are two kinds of fool -- one says 'this is
old and therefore good' and the other says 'this
is new and therefore better'...
theme (and not just in Serge-land) of "you'd think
someone would manage to make a system that
decidedly outdoes Serge in a bunch of ways".
What kinds of things do people think would fill
the bill on this? Or is it just a vague feeling
that "since this stuff (Serge, or whatever is under
comment at the time) is old, something newer must
perforce be better/offer improvements"?
I'd sure be happy, or at least vastly interested,
to hear thoughts as to what would 'vasty improve'
the land of modular, or even analog, synthesis,
but... Lots of talk about how this "should" be
possible, "should" be happening, but precious little
(like no) concrete suggestions as to what would
fit the bill.
Anybody else see this, or am I once again off the
far end of the bell curve?
cheers,
Bill
"There are two kinds of fool -- one says 'this is
old and therefore good' and the other says 'this
is new and therefore better'...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hizumi@... [mailto:hizumi@...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 8:54 PM
> To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [SergeModular] Re: Freq. Shifter...Serge future?
>
>
>
> > > It seems that Mr Duncan took some
> > > Serge things from late 70's vintage and did mixed liberally
> with his own
> > > ideas.
> >
> > A little harsh again IMO. He's taken ideas from several different
> systems,
> > Digisound and Polyfusion for example. And why not if they
> sound good.
>
> err IMHO you aren't being harsh yourself. There is one Digisound
> Module and 2 Polyfusion filters (not counting the actual
> Polyfusion LFO boards which were a spinoff from a custom job)
>
> I'd say about half his modules are very close to old Serge
> designs without many of his own ideas on those modules.
> (PCO, multimode, LFO, VCA, ADSR, there's a whole basic serge
> there, 2 of the multipliers, the morphed waveform, peak trough).
> This isn't to say he has no ideas of his own or that they are badly
> constructed, quite the opposite.
>
> > On the other hand there has barely been any development to
> the Serge modules
> > in recent years apart from a couple of control modules
> (Boolean Logic etc).
>
> very true, he did the a new divider too I think
>
> > I guess the bottom line is we have to be thankful that Rex
> resurrected the
> > Serge name and has kept the thing going all this time.
>
> and whats perhaps more interesting is that the modules simply
> haven't been across the board surpassed by the new
> competition in any serious technical ways. Sure a few things out
> there do something new, but you'd think someone would
> manage to make a (probably very expensive) system that
> decidedly outdoes Serge in a bunch of ways
>
> Like Bruce Duncan, for all his skills isn't pushing the old Serge
> stuff further than the present day Serge stuff.
>
> Many are making fine units and the Encore built MOTM module
> and Wiard do seem to be pushing the envalope :-)
>
> But I keep seeing these new standard complemented medium
> sized systems with nothing terribly original going on inside them
> over and over again, not exactly close competition.
>
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