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Re: analog desk to digital desk. wha the hell?

2005-08-15 by Peter Grenader

darkstr1746@... wrote:

This question could generate some long winded answers i'm sure ,so just keep responses as non technical as possible.
Who here has made the switch from straight up analog desk to a digital desk?. . like the Sony or Yamaha O2R. What were your first impressions about the learning curve and the difference in sonic quality? I say "first" impressions because i'm sure attitudes changed during the learning curve process.

They're trade-offs with every technology. While tape may have a certain warmth, the stock is impossible to find, a mutlitrack machine and automated desk is still quite cost prohibitive and editing capabilities are not close to being in the same league as modern digital offerings.

As an example, go here:

http://www.buzzclick-music.com/picture_motu.jpg

This is a 26 channel submix of something that started off as 96 channels. Each channel has loads of automation (levels, panning, even automation of effects like reverb, etc.), as well as independent limiters on several of the channels. I couldn't conceive of the cash outlay required to do this with tape and a mixing desk, nor could I afford to rent the space needed to house all of it. And the beauty of it is, everything can be changed. I can drag sound events to wherever I need them, I can duplicate them and paste in in other sections, I can bring in samples from other sessions. It makes writing music fun!

Submixes were all digital, no D to A's involved and if you design the session right, you can keep it all in the digital domain until the final transfer to CD. This keep things very very quiet.


How hard was it to learn how to record and mix useing sub menues and multiple layers? What about choices of I/O cards?

It's like anything else, takes a bit of time. I'm sure Outlook was confusing at first for all of us. But in time, instead kicking the shit out of us, we turned that around. Most of the digital audio s/w packages emulate the look, feel and terminology of the modern recording studio - so it's not like you're dealing with a completely foreign environment. It's quickly adapted. SIx months tops and you're there.

Who uses ADATS? or is that too old school?

Skip the middle man! Try out the free demo of Protools. Play around with it and see if it's for you.

As far as sound cards, I've been happy with my digi001, but that's relatively old technolgy at this point. There are some great new firewire boxes out there like the MOTU 828 which can handle 10 channels of 96k. They're cheap and reliable.

<<One last thing. The issue of master clock. What are the solutions to the master clock problem? or is there a problem at all anymore. Specificaly, i have more effects boxes than channel returns on a digital desk, so inputs will have to be by digital I/O. this requires that some device be the master. . . correct? I have a friend that uses a stand alone box that supplies the whole studio with master clock. Is this the way to go?>>

In my experience it's not a problem. There are many affordable choices out there.

Keep your answers simple as possible. I'm an idiot.
kind regards
john duval


Keep on Patchin'!




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