On May 3, 2006, at 1:12 AM, somatikon wrote:
want the soup kitchen. i will use this synth for signal processing at
least half the time, but also need a "voice", or at least a few osc's.
the cv2 looks good, much better than the cv1 for my uses (don't need
that quantizer or those asr's, and the extended adsr would be a
little too sophisticated for my style too, i almost never use the
adsr's on my doepfer)
but the cv2 also has a lot of stuff on it i don't think i'll
need...i'd prefer to take just a dsg or two, a dtg as a space-
efficient alternative to a dsg with cycle switches, and a random source.
cv modules are always the hardest to pick, they just seem more
obscure and less obviously appealing, but i know it's a common trap
to overlook proper cv sources and treatments...
thanks!
> Hi Alex,can't wait...
>
> About 9 months ago I was in the same place as you......actually
> giving into your desires
> means making that phone call to Rex.
>yeah, i know my current line-up is much too short on cv. but i really
> Today my system is a Blue voice, and a CV1 panel which I got from
> STS and a TKB from
> John Duval off this forum.
>
> If you are set on a three panel system that includes the blue voice
> you might consider
> trading out the soup kitchen for a control voltage panel as the
> system you quoted has
> limited CV which Im discovering is what makes the Serge so
> special. It would be like
> trying to set sail in a beautiful handcrafted sailboat without
> wind. CV is wind to the Serge.
want the soup kitchen. i will use this synth for signal processing at
least half the time, but also need a "voice", or at least a few osc's.
the cv2 looks good, much better than the cv1 for my uses (don't need
that quantizer or those asr's, and the extended adsr would be a
little too sophisticated for my style too, i almost never use the
adsr's on my doepfer)
but the cv2 also has a lot of stuff on it i don't think i'll
need...i'd prefer to take just a dsg or two, a dtg as a space-
efficient alternative to a dsg with cycle switches, and a random source.
cv modules are always the hardest to pick, they just seem more
obscure and less obviously appealing, but i know it's a common trap
to overlook proper cv sources and treatments...
thanks!
>
> The TKB was something I thought I would wait a while on......Im so
> glad I didnt. It
> breathes so much life into the system.
>
> just my humble 2 cents.
>
> All the best,
>
> Jules
>
>
>
>
> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "beschaving@..."
> <beschaving@...> wrote:
>>
>> hello everyone,
>>
>> so i finally gave in to my desires and started to seriously think
>> about buying a few serge panels.
>>
>> partly because of comments on this list, i'd like to try to get most
>> of my wishes fulfilled by a small selection of shop panels, mostly
>> because they should offer a kind of fool-proof ideal configuration
>> for new users like myself, and also because they should be relatively
>> easy to sell again should that be necessary.
>> on the one hand i think the only way to put together my ideal system
>> would be to hand-pick and combine modules myself, but it feels safer
>> to go with shop panels. i could try to get four panels, where the
>> last one would be a selection of the things i'm missing with three
>> shop panels.
>>
>> a few general remarks about my ideas and uses for a serge:
>> predictably, i want a few oscillators, both kinds, as well as one or
>> more filters and vca and panning functions.
>> i want the system to be heavy on the processing modules. i play
>> experimental/improvised music doing a lot of processing of external
>> sounds and with a big emphasis on sound sculpting and noise making
>> rather than traditional synth or keyboard "voices" or rhythms.
>> i want cv sources, of course, but would be more likely to go with
>> relatively few modules and i would lean towards having a small number
>> of multipurpose cv sources rather than many of them with specific
>> uses. one reason is that i do a lot of manual control, and that i
>> tend towards "spontaneous", manually triggered events rather than
>> complex pre-programmed cv shapes. this is why i'm thinking of the tkb
>> manual controller rather than having many lfo/ar/adsr modules and
>> related cv processors.
>>
>> the system should be small enough to be carried onto a plane! is
>> there any way to do this with four panels? how about a suitcase with
>> two panels in each lid, with the control panels almost touching each
>> other when the case is closed?
>>
>>
>> my idea for a three panel setup now comes down to this:
>>
>> -blue voice
>> i know i want several oscillators, the ring mod, and the standard
>> vcf.
>> i'm not all that familiar with the wave multiplier but it's been
>> consistently praised by others, and it's unique to the serge.
>> it has a mixer, we all need mixers.
>> the module on this panel that i would be least likely to hand-pick
>> myself is the uap. i want true stereo panning (like on the dcsm), and
>> cross-fading and dual vca functions can be gotten from the smaller
>> dedicated modules, with the benefit of both being available
>> simultaneously (in other words, i'd probably get a crossfader and a
>> dual vca rather then a uap, if it were up to me).
>>
>> -soup kitchen
>> i do a lot of external processing, so a preamp detector is a must.
>> a frequency shifter would be great, but does the soup kitchen also
>> offer the version with external carrier?
>> the c/m is only there to fill up panel space behind which the frs is
>> located, and i'd prefer the c/m over an adapter module, because it
>> "does" more.
>> i'm extremely curious about the wad (not the most flattering
>> abbreviation). i'd love to hear comments about this module.
>> another mixer, ok.
>> of the two main filter types aside from the standard vcf the variable
>> slope one appeals to me most, and it would be great to have at least
>> two (different) filters.
>> i love the serge eq, i'd definitely get one of those.
>> phasing, i'm not so sure. what are the uses of this aside from the
>> familiar whooshing phasing sound we know from guitar fx boxes?
>> the dcsm, definitely. i want true stereo panning.
>>
>> -tkb
>> although i can't seem y self ever playing melodies on a serge, or any
>> other synth, i'd like to have sophisticated manual control over the
>> synth, and a kind of "push button" access to sounds or modulations to
>> my sounds. sequencing...i'm not so sure, i've never used a sequencer
>> in my life
>>
>>
>> the trouble i run into:
>> no noise/random module! i must have a noise and random module...so
>> this would have to be on a fourth panel, but i'd kind of like to
>> stick with three, both because of cost and portability.
>> no dsg's! this seems like the most universal, flexible and not-to-be-
>> missed cv module in the system, and the line-up described above has
>> none and also nothing similar to it, so missing out on a dsg
>> altogether would be problematic.
>> i guess a cv 2 panel would solve these issues nicely, but i'm
>> thinking that would be a little over-the-top in the cv department for
>> my way of working. i'd probably rather add a few more audio modules
>> instead in case i'd really get a fourth panel.
>>
>>
>> any comment on these ideas would be immensely appreciated! i'm just
>> sort of thinking aloud here, so don't be shy to correct me. sorry for
>> the rambling post.
>>
>> thanks very much
>>
>> alex
>>
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