Agree entirely with Mike's comments. (hi Mike!).
I would add that as instruments (as opposed to isolated modules) both
systems are philosophically quite different.
The 300 series modules are designed to be "voices" on their own -
most of them are capable of making some kind of interesting sound
without relying on additional modules.
Also 300 series modules are complex in the sense that internally they
are composed of simple modules integrated in interesting ways to
create sophisticated "units" that give interesting results, just like
the Woggle Bug example cited by Mike.
Grant adopted the philosophy that either one of his modules could be
used to augment another system and provide a different voice for it.
I adopted the theory of building instruments rather than collecting
modules, so I went down the path of putting together a complete
instrument with 300 series modules. Think when used this way the 300
series are very unique and give you somewhat of a Buchla-esque flavor
that Serge does not have when used straight through.
The above is not exactly what you asked but figured it might be
useful in feeling your way through the system differences, as some of
them stem from philosophy rather than functionality.
Regards,
Bill
__________________________________________
Bill Sequeira, PHD - Principal
Axon Hillock - http://www.axonhillock.com/
I would add that as instruments (as opposed to isolated modules) both
systems are philosophically quite different.
The 300 series modules are designed to be "voices" on their own -
most of them are capable of making some kind of interesting sound
without relying on additional modules.
Also 300 series modules are complex in the sense that internally they
are composed of simple modules integrated in interesting ways to
create sophisticated "units" that give interesting results, just like
the Woggle Bug example cited by Mike.
Grant adopted the philosophy that either one of his modules could be
used to augment another system and provide a different voice for it.
I adopted the theory of building instruments rather than collecting
modules, so I went down the path of putting together a complete
instrument with 300 series modules. Think when used this way the 300
series are very unique and give you somewhat of a Buchla-esque flavor
that Serge does not have when used straight through.
The above is not exactly what you asked but figured it might be
useful in feeling your way through the system differences, as some of
them stem from philosophy rather than functionality.
Regards,
Bill
__________________________________________
Bill Sequeira, PHD - Principal
Axon Hillock - http://www.axonhillock.com/
On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Michael A. Firman wrote:
> Well the systems are pretty different but the functionality of the
> Envelator,
> the Mixolator, the Classic VCO, and the Filter can all be found on
> a Serge
> system somewhere (one can argue about the Classic VCO and the
> Filter I suppose -
> all VCOs and Filters are a little different and there is much
> subjectivity
> involved when it comes to those items in modulars). Now the three
> modules
> that are the most profoundly different from anything on a Serge are
> the
> Borg Filter, the Waveform City, and the Woogle Bug. The Sequentizer
> is a
> very unique sequencer also but the TKB is very powerful and can
> cover most
> of the Sequentizers functionality (and a great deal more). The
> Sequentizer does
> have CV selectable stages and has an on board gate controlled
> glide. It also
> has on board quantization and CV controlable octave up and down.
>
> The Serge doesn't have vactrol filters that can be used as low pass
> gates
> (the Borg Filter is such a device). The Serge doesn't provide any
> wave table
> synthesis/transfer function modules (the Waveform City is such a
> device).
> The Serge does have random voltage sources and smooth and stepped
> function
> generators but they are nothing like the Woogle Bug, and there is
> nothing on
> a Serge system that will do the very strange "Phase Locked Loop"
> sort of audio
> chaos that the Bug will do.
>
> BTW I love both systems.
>
> --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "cray5656" <amni56@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I am interested in tracking down a Wiard 300 series system. I own a
>> Serge Blue Fun system, and love it.
>>
>> Is there anything in the Wiard 300 series that the Serge cant do?
>>
>> If you own both systems what 300 series would you recommend to get.
>> Classic VCO , Waveform City, Sequentializer etc
>>
>
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