SergeModular

I have been in the Serge "game" the last few years. ANY pannel is
going to run $1500 on up up up. I'm talking broken modules at that
price IF you can even see it for under $2k

Any panel in good shape will fetch $2500 Pre STS or not. Maybe some
here wouldn't pay that but there are plenty of folks who would and do
especially in Europe where the US $$ is very low. $800-$1000 is a
pipe dream and has the same odds as getting a $250 TB303. Sure you
*might* find someone selling that for that price, but if the market
found out it would be back to $2500 in a second.

Good shape STS panels easily fetch the old price list prices.
Especially when you consider custom panels are no longer being made.
It is VERY true that the module complement and the buyer's desires
influence prices a lot. Everyone seems to want an Animal panel or
processing modules. Only those familiar with the CV wackiness will
see the beauty of some of the more esoteric modules. So there is some
variety. But folks WILL buy something they don't want, even at high
prices, to get something they do want. That's the serge difference.


The last new price list I saw had some single modules at $1250 each.
One module. pre sts or not a panel with those types of things in it
are going to be worth $$ to someone looking for one since your
choices are buy the used high price or pay $5K+ and wait for a new
one.

Kind of makes $8000 for a Fenix or those current Buchla prices seem
almost right.

:)



--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> hello List,
>
> many thanks to all for the detailed replys!!
>
> best regards, :-)
> Bakis.
>
>
> --- evetsterueb <synth@...> wrote:
>
> > The comments above are a good guide. Watch the
> > newsgroups and ebay for
> > a while. As far as the difference of opinion about
> > prices for old
> > panels, I've seen old panels fetch high prices. The
> > main determinant
> > seems to be how well the module selection matches
> > the desires of the
> > buyer, not age. This is a somewhat unique factor in
> > the used Serge
> > market since you're always dealing in groups of
> > modules.
> >
> > I'm famiiar with STS panels from the Oakland era, as
> > well as pre-STS
> > panels from 1980/1981 (They were on Haight Street in
> > San Francisco
> > then), and 1980/1981 panels later rebuilt by STS and
> > combined with
> > newer circuits. All of it has held up very very well
> > and is more alike
> > than different. I also have a used panel from about
> > 1977 or 1978 which
> > has different banana jacks (not the Johnson jacks).
> > These old jacks
> > are secured by a barbed clip rather than a nut, and
> > many of those
> > needed to be replaced. The Johnson jacks are
> > incredibly durable. If
> > you find anything much older than that (panel
> > graphics with lots of
> > boxes and triangles) I suspect there is more
> > variation.
> >
> > Rex has gradually incorporated some improvements
> > into the electronics
> > of some modules (AFIK mostly subtle changes and
> > cleanups), turned some
> > common modifications into standard features,
> > transitioned to panel
> > graphics on metal and introduced the deeper chassis
> > boxes,
> > discontinued some modules and created some new ones
> > but overall the
> > product line has been pretty consistent over time.
> > If you are looking
> > for certain modules (you mentioned a WAD) that will
> > limit the date
> > range. I wonder if anybody has a timeline of these
> > things?
> >
> >
> > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "buchla300"
> > <david.morley@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I stand by my valuations of $800 to $1800 in
> > general
> > > If we are talking Pre STS then I think over $2000
> > would need it to be
> > > full of exceptional modules and this is unlikely
> > although totally
> > > possible that one panel has JUST rare and
> > expensive modules...
> >