The way it was explained to me is that you use the
first 0 degree QO output applied to the mixer at the
left-to-right arrow indicator (CVinput) - then you
apply the 90 degree out to the right-front-to-right
rear input. these, by necessity (there is only 1 rate
control) will have the same cycle time. The second QO
is thus for the other two CV inputs on the mixer,
which, when applied in the same manner as the first,
completes a circular sweep of the mixer outs. This a
standard application and you can see that you can just
as easily perform elaborate cross-sweeps in differing
directions. The problems with this setup are several,
none of which are faults of the Serge.
1. Quad has fallen into disuse.
2. You have a minimum of 4 channel out of the Serge,
and this means four mixer channels must be used, but
unless your mixer has Matrix routing ala Yamaha, and
you can derive four seperate and distinct mixer outs
which can be assigned at the input channel, you cannot
get real quad.
3. This monitoring scheme does not integrate easily
into the current standard of 5.1, which most new
digital mixers Do support, as well as ProTools and
Logic Audio Platinum.
I have discussed all this with Rex and he understands
the issues. At present the way I derive moving 5.1
mixes from the Serge is by sending multiple channels
of output from the Serge (all mono outs) to my 2408,
where I record them on seperate mono tracks in Logic
Audio. These tracks are individually assigned to the
5.1 matrix outs in logic and panned and moved around
there. you can use a joystick or simply draw the
movements with your mouse. If you have the record
button depressed, all the moves will be automated.
Voila!! moving 5.1 from the Serge. Now I would love to
see Rex develop a 5.1 moving field mixer for the
Serge, but realistically that will probably never
happen, for several reasons. STS is moving the Serge
forward in very controlled fashion, which is good for
everybody. new modules are thoroughly tested and
justified before they are incorporated into the
system. This is as it should be. The workaround
detailed above is practical for me, and saves me
valuable real estate on planned future panels.
BarryM
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first 0 degree QO output applied to the mixer at the
left-to-right arrow indicator (CVinput) - then you
apply the 90 degree out to the right-front-to-right
rear input. these, by necessity (there is only 1 rate
control) will have the same cycle time. The second QO
is thus for the other two CV inputs on the mixer,
which, when applied in the same manner as the first,
completes a circular sweep of the mixer outs. This a
standard application and you can see that you can just
as easily perform elaborate cross-sweeps in differing
directions. The problems with this setup are several,
none of which are faults of the Serge.
1. Quad has fallen into disuse.
2. You have a minimum of 4 channel out of the Serge,
and this means four mixer channels must be used, but
unless your mixer has Matrix routing ala Yamaha, and
you can derive four seperate and distinct mixer outs
which can be assigned at the input channel, you cannot
get real quad.
3. This monitoring scheme does not integrate easily
into the current standard of 5.1, which most new
digital mixers Do support, as well as ProTools and
Logic Audio Platinum.
I have discussed all this with Rex and he understands
the issues. At present the way I derive moving 5.1
mixes from the Serge is by sending multiple channels
of output from the Serge (all mono outs) to my 2408,
where I record them on seperate mono tracks in Logic
Audio. These tracks are individually assigned to the
5.1 matrix outs in logic and panned and moved around
there. you can use a joystick or simply draw the
movements with your mouse. If you have the record
button depressed, all the moves will be automated.
Voila!! moving 5.1 from the Serge. Now I would love to
see Rex develop a 5.1 moving field mixer for the
Serge, but realistically that will probably never
happen, for several reasons. STS is moving the Serge
forward in very controlled fashion, which is good for
everybody. new modules are thoroughly tested and
justified before they are incorporated into the
system. This is as it should be. The workaround
detailed above is practical for me, and saves me
valuable real estate on planned future panels.
BarryM
--- DarkStr717@... wrote:
>__________________________________________________
> In a message dated 6/12/01 8:13:50 AM,
> chris@... writes:
>
> << Do you need (or is there an advantage to having)
> 2 Quadrature Oscillators.
> >>
>
> IMHO you can never have to many Quadrature Osc. I
> have about 8 ( i think) and
> even though my system is rather large, it isn't
> enough. I like to spin things
> around alot with lots of goofy panning. Rex told me
> long ago that the
> Quadratures were the heart of "motion" in his system
> and he was right.
> Kind regards
> John DuVal
>
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