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Re: TKB - how do you use it?

2009-01-06 by don hassler

This was certainly the case with the older systems.


--- On Tue, 1/6/09, BooleanYulian <a.b@...> wrote:

> From: BooleanYulian <a.b@...>
> Subject: Re: [SergeModular] Re: TKB - how do you use it?
> To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 4:25 PM
> Well.. I clearly remeber being said on the list, a while
> back, that out-to-out connection is a nono and that there is
> a possibility of dammage. I, for one, have accidentally
> connected outputs together in the past and was lucky not to
> damage anything.
>
> However, if I were you, I'd go straight to the
> horse's mouth and talk to STS or ask Mr. Puller on the
> list.
>
>
> On 6-Jan-09, at 3:29 PM, billobrecht wrote:
>
> > What Skot has written is exactly what I believed to be
> > true - and am relieved to find confirmed
> >
> > "encourage students to explore the many
> possibilities without resorting to these
> > type of connections (but do not inhibit them with fear
> of a "wrong" connection,
> > the occasional accidental output to output patch is
> part of learning"
> >
> > so good to not have to worry about inhibiting them
> about wrong
> > connections. inhibiting them from drinking beer or
> soda near
> > the equipment is hard enough
> >
> > thanks !
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Skot Wiedmann
> <computer_jones@...>
> > >Sent: Jan 6, 2009 3:08 PM
> > >To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [SergeModular] Re: TKB - how do you
> use it?
> > >
> > >The distinction should be made between damaging
> the circuitry, and all other possibilities. No patch made
> within the serge system will damage the circuitry. Nor will
> patching present danger to the user. However, things might
> get out of hand with outputs patched to each other, which
> can cause some of the circuitry to temporarily stop working
> the way it is intended to. This might be a welcome new
> behaviour, or it might just be nothing. But I would
> encourage students to explore the many possibilities without
> resorting to these type of connections (but do not inhibit
> them with fear of a "wrong" connection, the
> occasional accidental output to output patch is part of
> learning). They will get more in terms of education and
> will not run out of things to try. Have fun!
> > >
> > >
> > >--- On Tue, 1/6/09, billobrecht
> <billobrecht@...> wrote:
> > >From: billobrecht
> <billobrecht@...>
> > >Subject: Re: [SergeModular] Re: TKB - how do you
> use it?
> > >To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
> > >Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 11:47 AM
> > >
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> > > It would be very good to know specifically
> > >
> > >which outputs should not be stacked into
> > >
> > >a single input (and hence connected together).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Th school where I work will soon be receiving an
> animal panel.
> > >
> > >I had hoped that the animal panel would be safe in
> the hands of
> > >
> > >of the twenty year old animals who will be using
> it - barring
> > >
> > >their attachment of 120v/15amp AC, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Anything to watch out for in particular ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >
> > >>From: zaum <zaum@optonline. net>
> > >
> > >>Sent: Jan 6, 2009 6:31 AM
> > >
> > >>To: SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com
> > >
> > >>Subject: [SergeModular] Re: TKB - how do you
> use it?
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >>> >What is the danger in having more
> than one output
> > >
> > >>> >connected to a single input ? My
> understanding had been
> > >
> > >>> >that the results might be
> "unexpected" , or non-linear,
> > >
> > >>> >(and, in general, a mixer should be
> used) but that no damage would
> > >
> > >>> result.
> > >
> > >>>
> > >
> > >>> Yes, I would agree with this. Sorry if my
> previous statement was
> > >
> > >>> misleading.
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >>Well the general theory behind that being no
> good is you don't simply
> > >
> > >>have 2 outputs going into one input (without
> using a proper mixer)
> > >
> > >>the same connection also results in each
> output sending a hot signal
> > >
> > >>back into the other output. At that point it
> depends on the circuits
> > >
> > >>and how the behave with an external signal
> going into an out.
> > >
> > >>Generally many modules aren't affected but
> some can be especially
> > >
> > >>with a strong signal.
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >>On the other hand certainly in the Buchla
> world, which of course had
> > >
> > >>a degree of influence on Serge, I understand
> it's fairly a common
> > >
> > >>practice with trigger pulses from multiple
> sources being "stacked" on
> > >
> > >>an input and the modules are okay with it.
> > >
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> > >>nick
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