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Re: Digest Number 588

Re: Digest Number 588

2004-02-23 by jan-hinnerk.helms@t-online.de

Hi Kirk,

thanks for this example. It clearly showed that the character of the
RES is _WAY_ away from the FB-14 and the VF11…which makes it a perfect
addition to these :-) Thanks a lot!

Looking at your Serge system on http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com/serge.htm,
I see that you also have the VCF2. Did you try to make it resonant by
patching a feedback loop? How did it sound? Do you perhaps also happen
to have an mp3 of this?

Or is there any other Serge user in Germany or surrounding countries on
the list how has a VCF2 and perhaps a VCFS (and a WAD) whom I could
visit to compare these two?

Thanks,
best regards,
Jan-Hinnerk
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On 21.02.2004, at 11:35, kirkdegiorgio wrote:

> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:06:29 -0000
> From: "kirkdegiorgio" <kirk.degiorgio@...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 586
>
> Jan-Hinnerk
>
> I just uploaded a short mp3 called RES Example in the Files section.
> Its a simple drum loop going thru the RES - nothing else in the
> chain. I am simply turning the 2.8k knob fully CW and then slowly
> back fully CCW. Then I play around at the end with some other freq's.
>
> Hope this gives you a better idea of what the RES can do.
>
> Regards
>
> KD
>
>
>
>> Ah…finally: The RES…I have 2 filterbanks at home, the MAM VF11
> (yeah,
>> it is a vocoder, but can be used as a filterbank and an excellent
>> frequency-selective distortion) and a SND FB-14 (totally different
>> sound than the FB-14, cleaner, no complete attenuation [sad], very
>> heavy distortion possible [great], but sounds more valvy than the
> MAM,
>> which is very transistor-like, http://www.s-n-d.com/fb14e.html).
>>
>> I thought adding the RES would be a nice complement to this by
> offering
>> a (hopefully) different flavor with its possibility to set some
> band to
>> become resonant. Some questions: How high is this resonance, I
> guess it
>> will not go into self-oscillation, right? And how big is the
> possible
>> attenuation? Is it possible to remove a band completely?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> best regards,
>> Jan-Hinnerk

Re: VCF2 (was Digest Number 588)

2004-02-24 by kirkdegiorgio

Hi Jan-Hinnerk

glad you found the RES mp3 useful... I will try and post an mp3
of the VCF2 in feedback mode sometime this week...

anybody else care to upload some sounds?? Compared to MOTM, Modcan, etc
there is a lack of Serge examples on the net... I'd like to hear the WAD an=
d/or the ASR
in action.

regards

KD
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> Hi Kirk,
>
> thanks for this example. It clearly showed that the character of the
> RES is _WAY_ away from the FB-14 and the VF11…which makes it a perfect
> addition to these :-) Thanks a lot!
>
> Looking at your Serge system on http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com/serge.htm,
> I see that you also have the VCF2. Did you try to make it resonant by
> patching a feedback loop? How did it sound? Do you perhaps also happen
> to have an mp3 of this?
>
> Or is there any other Serge user in Germany or surrounding countries on
> the list how has a VCF2 and perhaps a VCFS (and a WAD) whom I could
> visit to compare these two?
>
> Thanks,
> best regards,
> Jan-Hinnerk
>
> On 21.02.2004, at 11:35, kirkdegiorgio wrote:
>
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:06:29 -0000
> > From: "kirkdegiorgio" <kirk.degiorgio@b...>
> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 586
> >
> > Jan-Hinnerk
> >
> > I just uploaded a short mp3 called RES Example in the Files section.
> > Its a simple drum loop going thru the RES - nothing else in the
> > chain. I am simply turning the 2.8k knob fully CW and then slowly
> > back fully CCW. Then I play around at the end with some other freq's.
> >
> > Hope this gives you a better idea of what the RES can do.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > KD
> >
> >
> >
> >> Ah…finally: The RES…I have 2 filterbanks at home, the MAM VF11
> > (yeah,
> >> it is a vocoder, but can be used as a filterbank and an excellent
> >> frequency-selective distortion) and a SND FB-14 (totally different
> >> sound than the FB-14, cleaner, no complete attenuation [sad], very
> >> heavy distortion possible [great], but sounds more valvy than the
> > MAM,
> >> which is very transistor-like, http://www.s-n-d.com/fb14e.html).
> >>
> >> I thought adding the RES would be a nice complement to this by
> > offering
> >> a (hopefully) different flavor with its possibility to set some
> > band to
> >> become resonant. Some questions: How high is this resonance, I
> > guess it
> >> will not go into self-oscillation, right? And how big is the
> > possible
> >> attenuation? Is it possible to remove a band completely?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> best regards,
> >> Jan-Hinnerk

VCFS utilization

2004-02-24 by Bill Felton

Thought I'd chime in on this topic (before disconnecting for a couple of
weeks for a move). A question was raised a short while ago about
whether
the VCFS was "worthwhile" or "interesting". The general effect is
pretty subtle
but there's one use that makes the VCFS shine: take one of the outputs
(bandpass or hi-pass for my taste), run it thru the Freq Shifter, then
mix
the outputs of the Freq Shifter and the low-pass of the VCFS. Changing
the
slope of the filter then varies the proportion of the harmonics which
are
shifted (down for preference) and mixed back with the originally low-
pass filtered sound. Some amazing stuff lurks in this territory.
I'll try posting some samples once I'm back online -- maybe I can use
the 'away' time to actually generate some samples ;-) (No promises,
but if that plays out, I'll try some ASR samples as well.

cheers,
Bill
relocating to Chicago

Re: VCF2 (was Digest Number 588)

2004-02-24 by John P

Hey Kirk,

The WAD does a variety of things but to hear some crazy resonant stuff
go to my music site: mnml.soulcatcher.net/music.html and play the sample
'presto!'.

Best

John P.

kirkdegiorgio wrote:
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>Hi Jan-Hinnerk
>
>glad you found the RES mp3 useful... I will try and post an mp3
>of the VCF2 in feedback mode sometime this week...
>
>anybody else care to upload some sounds?? Compared to MOTM, Modcan, etc
>there is a lack of Serge examples on the net... I'd like to hear the WAD an=
>
>d/or the ASR
>in action.
>
>regards
>
>KD
>
>
>
>
>
>>Hi Kirk,
>>
>>thanks for this example. It clearly showed that the character of the
>>RES is _WAY_ away from the FB-14 and the VF11…which makes it a perfect
>>addition to these :-) Thanks a lot!
>>
>>Looking at your Serge system on http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com/serge.htm,
>>I see that you also have the VCF2. Did you try to make it resonant by
>>patching a feedback loop? How did it sound? Do you perhaps also happen
>>to have an mp3 of this?
>>
>>Or is there any other Serge user in Germany or surrounding countries on
>>the list how has a VCF2 and perhaps a VCFS (and a WAD) whom I could
>>visit to compare these two?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>best regards,
>>Jan-Hinnerk
>>
>>On 21.02.2004, at 11:35, kirkdegiorgio wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Message: 7
>>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:06:29 -0000
>>> From: "kirkdegiorgio" <kirk.degiorgio@b...>
>>>Subject: Re: Digest Number 586
>>>
>>>Jan-Hinnerk
>>>
>>>I just uploaded a short mp3 called RES Example in the Files section.
>>>Its a simple drum loop going thru the RES - nothing else in the
>>>chain. I am simply turning the 2.8k knob fully CW and then slowly
>>>back fully CCW. Then I play around at the end with some other freq's.
>>>
>>>Hope this gives you a better idea of what the RES can do.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>KD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ah…finally: The RES…I have 2 filterbanks at home, the MAM VF11
>>>>
>>>>
>>>(yeah,
>>>
>>>
>>>>it is a vocoder, but can be used as a filterbank and an excellent
>>>>frequency-selective distortion) and a SND FB-14 (totally different
>>>>sound than the FB-14, cleaner, no complete attenuation [sad], very
>>>>heavy distortion possible [great], but sounds more valvy than the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>MAM,
>>>
>>>
>>>>which is very transistor-like, http://www.s-n-d.com/fb14e.html).
>>>>
>>>>I thought adding the RES would be a nice complement to this by
>>>>
>>>>
>>>offering
>>>
>>>
>>>>a (hopefully) different flavor with its possibility to set some
>>>>
>>>>
>>>band to
>>>
>>>
>>>>become resonant. Some questions: How high is this resonance, I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>guess it
>>>
>>>
>>>>will not go into self-oscillation, right? And how big is the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>possible
>>>
>>>
>>>>attenuation? Is it possible to remove a band completely?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>best regards,
>>>>Jan-Hinnerk
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
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