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Re: Digest Number 685/many thanks

Re: Digest Number 685/many thanks

2004-08-15 by darkstr1746@comcast.net

Many thanks!! 'm sure you've given all of us some things to ponder and more than a few "jumping off" points. BTW, i loved the sound of the patch... much more interesting than my usual space drivel. Kind regards

john duval

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> Hi,
>
> thanks for your encouraging comments. Here comes a little bit more
> information than you asked for :-)
> I switched my mail program to plain text, so I hope this lengthy mail
> gets thru without these usual ugly special characters.
>
>
>
> I had this 4-note chord progression in my head for quite a while. Then
> a friend asked me for a piece done with my Serge Animal and [TKB].
> So...
>
> - I wanted to use the [TKB] pressure for articulation.
> - But as I don't have a MIDI-to-CV converter (why not?), all notes had
> to be played on the [TKB].
> - I used [TKB] row A to set the note pitches that were to be played.
> - So all different notes needed for the 4-voice chords had to fit into
> row A of the [TKB].
> - But as there were too many notes, they did not all fit, so I had to
> divide the whole thing into three sections, each with its own set of
> notes.
> - So first came bars 1 to 8, then 9 to 12, finally 13 to 17.
> - In each section I started recording with the top voice, then the next
> one etc.
> - For each voice in each section I adjusted the remaining [TKB] row B,
> C and D parameters (Waveshape, Cutoff, Resonance), as well as the SND
> filter bank, to get some timbral variations for each voice, and
> different sounding sections.
>
> I found the [TKB] pressure rather hard to control, the response
> felt...well...somewhat linear to me, and due to the FM feedback nature
> of the patch, some note's pitches changed according to the loudness of
> the patch, which added an another challenge. But I was so curious how
> everything would sound together, that I recorded each voice in each
> section in one or two passes, without rehearsal. And to add a little
> element of surprise for myself, I did not monitor the voices I recorded
> before. Every voice of every pass was played solo.
>
>
>
> For more details, here's the patch:
>
> [NTO] Variable Wave into [VCM] Waveshaper 2.
> NTO] Sawtooth into [VCM] Waveshaper 3.
> [VCM] Waveshaper 2 and 3 via [AMX] into [VCFX] In.
> [VCFX] Lowpass into [UAP].
> [UAP] into SND FB-14 filterbank (see http://www.s-n-d.com/fb14e.html)
> SND FB-14 via MotU 828 into Emagic Logic.
> Used Emagic's Space Designer as bus reverb in Logic.
>
> [PCO] Sine modulates [NTO] frequency.
> [PCO] Sine modulates [SMOOTH GENERATOR, patched as triangle oscillator]
> frequency.
> [SMOOTH GENERATOR, patched as triangle oscillator] modulates [PCO]
> frequency.
>
> [VCM] Waveshaper 2 into [NTO] FM Input.
>
> [TKB] Pressure modulates [UAP] volume, [VCFX] cutoff frequency, [VCM]
> Waveshaper 1 and 2.
> [TKB] row A controls [NTO] pitch.
> [TKB] row B controls [NTO] Variable Wave Shape.
> [TKB] row C controls [VCFX] cutoff frequency.
> [TKB] row D controls [VCFX] resonance.
>
>
>
> And the title? You know...when I was 12 years old, I started learning
> the trombone in the brass ensemble of my home village's church. I found
> the trombone interesting, but not as interesting as the girl who
> started learning the trumpet at the very same time. 4 months later, I
> saw my first real, live synthesizer (a Polysix) when visiting a trade
> show in a big city nearby with my buddy's parents. The synth was much
> more interesting that the girl with the trumpet. I immediately quitted
> the brass ensemble. We were still quite bad at that time.
>
> So when I finished all recordings, I unmuted all tracks on, listened to
> the whole thing � and felt immediately reminded to my attempts of
> playing the trombone and falling in love.
>
> In any case, my respect for Carlos and Tomita is higher than ever.
> Thanks for the bandwidth.
>
> Best regards,
> Jan-Hinnerk
>
>
>
> On 14.08.2004, at 14:28, SergeModular@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> > Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:44:33 +0000
> > From: darkstr1746@...
> > Subject: Re: The worst trombone ensemble you ever heard�
> >
> > How about putting up the patch for this?
> > john duval
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > _
> >
> > Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:33:28 -0700
> > From: Peter Grenader
> > Subject: Re: The worst trombone ensemble you ever heard �
> >
> > Hey - I think that passage is extremely interesting. One of the best
> > things
> > I've heard posted in quite some time.
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > _
> >>
> >> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:27:25 +0200 (CEST)
> >> From: jan-hinnerk.helms@...
> >> Subject: The worst trombone ensemble you ever heard�
> >>
> >> Go to
> >> http://homepage.mac.com/jhhelms/tragicomix.mp3
> >> and have a good laugh at your favorite modular synthesizer.
>
>
>
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