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some ASR noodles

some ASR noodles

2004-08-25 by darkstr717

Just thought i'd contribute and confuse the subject of the uses for
the ASR module that was running here a few months back. was doing a
few experiments last night and thought a few people might want to
check this out if they haven't already.
patch three outputs of ASR to 1v/oct of three PCOs. Tune the three
PCOs to either unison,octaves or for some real fun, try any chord
useing the intervals 1 3 5#.
Patch a DTG or , as in my case, a VCClock. Left hand section of clock
(blue jack) to "sample in" and right section(red jack,gate out)
to "pulse in". Set frequency of both to 10:00. Double patch blue
outputs of each section to "vc in" of the opposit section... right to
left, left to right . Left VC in at 11:00 and right VC in at 1:00.
Set attenuator of ASR to 10:00
This will get you a Martian war chant on mescaline. I dont' find it
useful at all but.... take the outputs of the ASR and send them to a
Quantizer and then on to the PCO and now you have something. So if
you care to bypass the war chant, do the Quantizer patch first before
you fire it up. Of course you can introduce other madness from the
PCOs onward. I mixed the outputs (all saw waves ) with a MIX2 to a
VCFQX then to a UAP (right side) Double patched from each of the MIX2
inputs to three inputs of a Cynthia Synthacon filter and then to the
left input of the UAP. Adjust to taste.
Playing with the attenuator of the ASR and playing with the frequency
and VC knobs on the Clock, or DTG or whatever your useing, is where
all the fun begins.I'm useing the PCO settings that give me the 1 3
5# intervals.
A different approach is to use a fourth PCO as the input for a
Comparator and feeding that ouput into the "sample in" of the ASR.
Appreares to give less stable results but has interesting timberal
characteristics. I'm going to do some more fooling around useing the
TKB and a SEQ Programmer for inputs to the ASR and the Clock.
If this gets anyones juices going let me know. Conversly, if you all
think i'm wasting bandwidth, let me know that also. Don't want to bum
anyones summer groove.
kind regards
john duval

Re: some ASR noodles

2004-08-26 by metafoetus2002

Hi John,

though I don't have an ASR, this makes interesing readingÂ…now what about li=
stening to it?

Please, be so kind and give us a URL where we can listen to these "martian =
war chants"!

Thanks,
Jan-Hinnerk

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "darkstr717" <darkstr1746@c...> wrote:=
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> Just thought i'd contribute and confuse the subject of the uses for
> the ASR module that was running here a few months back. was doing a
> few experiments last night and thought a few people might want to
> check this out if they haven't already.
> patch three outputs of ASR to 1v/oct of three PCOs. Tune the three
> PCOs to either unison,octaves or for some real fun, try any chord
> useing the intervals 1 3 5#.
> Patch a DTG or , as in my case, a VCClock. Left hand section of clock
> (blue jack) to "sample in" and right section(red jack,gate out)
> to "pulse in". Set frequency of both to 10:00. Double patch blue
> outputs of each section to "vc in" of the opposit section... right to
> left, left to right . Left VC in at 11:00 and right VC in at 1:00.
> Set attenuator of ASR to 10:00
> This will get you a Martian war chant on mescaline. I dont' find it
> useful at all but.... take the outputs of the ASR and send them to a
> Quantizer and then on to the PCO and now you have something. So if
> you care to bypass the war chant, do the Quantizer patch first before
> you fire it up. Of course you can introduce other madness from the
> PCOs onward. I mixed the outputs (all saw waves ) with a MIX2 to a
> VCFQX then to a UAP (right side) Double patched from each of the MIX2
> inputs to three inputs of a Cynthia Synthacon filter and then to the
> left input of the UAP. Adjust to taste.
> Playing with the attenuator of the ASR and playing with the frequency
> and VC knobs on the Clock, or DTG or whatever your useing, is where
> all the fun begins.I'm useing the PCO settings that give me the 1 3
> 5# intervals.
> A different approach is to use a fourth PCO as the input for a
> Comparator and feeding that ouput into the "sample in" of the ASR.
> Appreares to give less stable results but has interesting timberal
> characteristics. I'm going to do some more fooling around useing the
> TKB and a SEQ Programmer for inputs to the ASR and the Clock.
> If this gets anyones juices going let me know. Conversly, if you all
> think i'm wasting bandwidth, let me know that also. Don't want to bum
> anyones summer groove.
> kind regards
> john duval

Re: some ASR noodles

2004-08-30 by S V G

John wrote:
> Besides, it appears that
> interest in patch posting or discussion at any level has reached an all time low on this list.

Just because there's not a lot of response doesn't mean that people aren't reading and slowly
digesting this stuff. I remember you saying a year or two ago how you wished there would be more
discussion of patches and module use and stuff. Well the more you do this, the more others will
too. Me, I don't currently have any Serge stuff in my rack, though I do get inspiration from just
reading about it. Many of the less complex patches I can hear in my head, kinda like how a
conductor can read through an orchestral score and hear the sound in his or her mind.


> I too started out with a sixteen track reel to reel. Then went to a Akai 8 track hard disk along
> with it's companion 4 track. For the last few years i've been useing Alesis XT-20s (2) with a
> Spirit Ghost LE desk (32x8)

The Ghost really seems like overkill, not in the quality department, rather in the size
overkill department. Boys will be boys though... I would humbly suggest that your studio methods
would be stimulated by downsizing the mixer and finding a high quality/low learning curve
recording device that is rugged and reliable.



.. not the most convenient setup to be sure and a downright pain in
> the rear when trying to assemble bits and pieces...... so i don't. I stick with this old school
> approach 'cause it's what i'm comfortable with. I just was never able to get behind,let alone
> understand a O2R which would be the logical choice.It was too much like a computer.

Friends don't let friends buy digital mixers, especially Yamaha. Don't do it John, don't do
it!!!!!!



> As one might
> guess, i'm somewhat of a Luddite when it comes to this area. I do look upon my more gifted, tech
> savy friends with total envy and usualy must enlist outside skills when editing down a final
> mix.I feel so lame. Once again i'm toying with the idea of a PT OO2 LE but i get cold sweats
> just thinking about having to deal with menus and subroutines that seem to appear and disappear
> at the push of the wrong button..... something i'm famous for. I also get easily frustrated by
> error messages with no attendent explanation for whats going on. I have been checking out stand
> alone turnkey systems like those offered by Carillon Audio Systems where the systems seemed to
> be optimized for one purpose only.


Your fears are all to real. Being a Luddite never sounded so good as long as you get to keep
your Serge... I'm waiting for the day when computers will be smart enough to deal with stupid
button presses and human impatience and cluelessness.

Me, I use CoodEditPro 2.0 on my XP for recording. Though a while back I bought an Otari 1/2"
8 track and am looking forward to returning to my roots... Mackie mixers aren't the best, though
they do well enough for me at this time.

Stephen





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Re: some ASR noodles

2004-08-30 by George Miller

--- S V G <vsyevolod@...> wrote:
>
>
> John wrote:
> > Besides, it appears that
> > interest in patch posting or discussion at any
> level has reached an all time low on this list.
>
> Just because there's not a lot of response
> doesn't mean that people aren't reading and slowly
> digesting this stuff. I remember you saying a year
> or two ago how you wished there would be more
> discussion of patches and module use and stuff.
> Well the more you do this, the more others will
> too. Me, I don't currently have any Serge stuff in
> my rack, though I do get inspiration from just
> reading about it. Many of the less complex patches
> I can hear in my head, kinda like how a
> conductor can read through an orchestral score and
> hear the sound in his or her mind.
>


Yes Yes. Thanks for the ASR patch. I am in the middle
of moving and going on a short tour and I am really
looking foward to messing with the patch when things
cool out. I also have a cool patch up now and am not
done with it yet. I am one in particular who needed
guidance on the ASR. THANKS SO MUCH. I really value
the input from everyone. - George





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