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Ebay Serge

2001-05-06 by gredmond@mediaone.net

Hi,

I'm new to the list, and don't actually own a Serge (that will
change one day!). Currently, I occupy myself with a Nord MicroModular
and Korg MS2000 --not quite in the same league as Serge/STS, I know.

Anyhow, this auction on Ebay caught my attention, and might be of
interest to members of the group (I'm not affiliated with this
auction in any way):

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1428097684

Greg Redmond

Serge setup

2001-05-06 by Alexandros Papadopoulos

Hello ,
I am thinking about the synth setup I need , and I need your expert advice.
I need a two-panel Serge , connected to a MIDI keyboard and a Kurzweil
Expression Mate ribbon controller .
What kind of interface do I need for these connections ?
Alternatively , are there any new analog keyboards and ribbon controllers?
(analog makes me feel more musical...)
Thanks

Re: Serge setup

2001-05-07 by nkent1

on 5/6/01 6:39 PM, Alexandros Papadopoulos at Alexmoog@... wrote:
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> Hello ,
> I am thinking about the synth setup I need , and I need your expert advice.
> I need a two-panel Serge , connected to a MIDI keyboard and a Kurzweil
> Expression Mate ribbon controller .
> What kind of interface do I need for these connections ?

A MIDI to CV converter. (like an Encore Expressionist if you want a top
rated one) A Serge Adapters module or something to give you banana
connections out of the converter

> Alternatively , are there any new analog keyboards and ribbon controllers?
> (analog makes me feel more musical...)
> Thanks

Well there aren't that many real analog *keyboards* but fortunately the
Alesis Andromeda A6 is one of them and has a ribbon.

nick kent

Re: Serge setup

2001-05-08 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 5/6/01 3:42:44 PM, Alexmoog@... writes:

<< What kind of interface do I need for these connections ? >>

I'm useing the Encore Expressionist and a panel that has a CV interface
modual on it. Actually there are two moduals. on is for CV and the other is
for gates.
John

Re: Serge setup

2001-05-09 by Scott Evans, Gen Mgr

John,

Can you get access to the velocity and release velocity data with the Encore Expressionist?

Thanks, Scott

DarkStr717@... wrote:


In a message dated 5/6/01 3:42:44 PM, Alexmoog@... writes:

<< What kind of interface do I need for these connections ? >>

I'm useing the Encore Expressionist and a panel that has a CV interface
modual on it. Actually there are two moduals. on is for CV and the other is
for gates.
John

Re: Serge setup

2001-05-09 by Matt Wilson

"Scott Evans, Gen Mgr" wrote:

John,

Can you get access to the velocity and release velocity data with the Encore Expressionist?

i don't have my machine here in front of me, but i'm pretty sure that the expressionist does
not provide for velocity related data at all. i'm sure i've never used it as such.

i recently took delivery of the synths.com keyboard, which has a velocity cv output. its been
quite fun with the serge.

the paia midi-cv kit has what you're looking for, tho...

matt

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Re: Serge setup

2001-05-09 by DarkStr717@aol.com

In a message dated 5/8/01 11:55:10 PM, esresource@... writes:

<< Can you get access to the velocity and release velocity data with the >>

I'm not really sure.. i just use it for note on,. note off... i use the gates
and the CV to drive the ADSR's of the Serge. I don't have much use for any of
the velocity stuff.
John

Re: Serge setup

2001-05-09 by Nathan_Brenholdt@Playstation.sony.com

i use an encore expressionist with my serge modular as well, and yes, it
will respond to velocity, and lots of other controllers too. there are 8
channels on the expressionist. i'm currently using the odd channels for
note CV and gate data, and the even channels for velocity, aftertouch, mod
wheel mapping, etc., mostly to filter cutoff.

so i'll set output #1 to send out the note CV and gate. i'll set up output
#2 to respond to velocity, mod wheel, and aftertouch (all at the same
time), on the same MIDI channel as output #1. they are mixed together, to
give a CV at output #2, which i usually route to filter cutoff. i'll use
the rest of the converter channels in the same way, but programed to
respond to different MIDI channels.

you can also set the expressionist to respond polyphonically, so using the
above method, you could have a polyphonic 4-voice serge. obviously, if you
just wanted the note data, you could have an 8-voice polyphonic serge. (of
course, you need that many oscillators!)

another possibility would be to use 6 of the outputs for note data, and the
remaining 2 outputs to respond to separate controllers, with one being
routed to one filter (say, panned to the left), and the other to a
different filter (panned to the right). there are quite a few
possibilities with this type of setup, especially when you consider that
EACH CV output can be a mix of up to 4 different control sources (velocity,
mod wheel, aftertouch, etc.), in addition to note data, plus 3 built-in,
multi-waveshape, MIDI-syncable LFOs, octave transpose and pitch bend! then
you can store your settings into one of 100 memories. it also has settings
for other synths, with s-trigger, and linear and exponential CV control.
pretty nice!

the one thing i was wishing, having modular synths, was that you could
program the "extra" gate jack (the one which correspondes to the
"velocity/controller CV jack" when used in the scenario mentioned above) to
respond to a different MIDI channel. you can have the CVs and gates
respond to any MIDI channel, or all the same MIDI channel. but in the
above scenario, when using a CV output to respond only to velocity or MIDI
controllers (but not note data), the corresponding gate jack becomes pretty
useless. (output #1 & #2 are responding to the same MIDI channel. CV #1
is delivering the note data. gate #1 is delivering the trigger data. CV
#2 is delivering the corresponding velocity/mod wheell/aftertouch data.
but currently, anything on gate #2 would interfere with gate #1 since they
are the same MIDI channel. changing the MIDI channel would mean your
velocity/controller data would be on a separate MIDI channel from your note
data.) i thought it would be cool if you could program that gate jack to
respond to note data on a different MIDI channel. then you could use it to
trigger an arpeggiator, an envelope, a sequencer, a divider, etc., just by
playing notes on that channel. (it's not like you can't program it to
trigger things now. it just uses up an extra output on the converter.)
tony at encore sounded interested in this feature for a future update.
maybe someday...

all in all, i would highly recommend the encore expressionist for any
analog synths. i use 2 of them, patched through some 1/4" patchbays, on
many things, including my old serge.

check out www.encoreelectronics.com for more info.



nathan







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In a message dated 5/8/01 11:55:10 PM, esresource@... writes:

<< Can you get access to the velocity and release velocity data with the >>

I'm not really sure.. i just use it for note on,. note off... i use the
gates
and the CV to drive the ADSR's of the Serge. I don't have much use for any
of
the velocity stuff.
John

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Re: Serge setup

2001-05-17 by barry_michael@enron.net

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On second glance, there is not a velocity setting in the Encore, although you
can control the gate on in some ways.
I'm not in a situation to go to the Unit at the moment.
BarryM


"Scott Evans, Gen Mgr" wrote:
John,


Can you get access to the velocity and release velocity data with the
Encore Expressionist?



i don't have my machine here in front of me, but i'm pretty sure that the
expressionist does
not provide for velocity related data at all. i'm sure i've never used it as
such.


i recently took delivery of the synths.com keyboard, which has a velocity cv
output. its been
quite fun with the serge.


the paia midi-cv kit has what you're looking for, tho...


matt



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