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Wiard functions (Re: [SergeModular] greetings serge users/a request

2001-06-01 by Sebastian Kuehnl

Hi Bill, John,

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Subject: Re: [SergeModular] greetings serge users/a request for opinions



<<I believe you could be happy with any of these systems. The exciting
thing about MOTM and Wiard is that these systems are still evolving and you
can see what new modules are added to the lineups over time. The
frustration is waiting to see what new modules are added! It may be some
years before MOTM or Wiard have phasers, frequency shifters, variable slope
filters, VC Dividers or boolean logic >>

Wiard:

The Omni filter can work as a phaser (allpass mode). It has 1v/o-calibrated
and attenuatable exponential inputs, att. linear input (FM), either positive
or negative feedback, has outputs shifted by 360 degrees (two poles) and by
720 degrees (four poles) and can be crossfaded into highpass filtering mode.

Frequency shifting can be realized to a limited extent if you have two Dual
Envelators, four (sic) Wavecities and two Mixolators: shape both quadrature
related Envelator triangle outputs to sinewaves, ringmodulate the respective
sine and cosine signals and add/ subtract for single sideband outputs.
However the Envelators are controlled linearly for most of the audio range,
the sinewaves won't be perfect and the Mixolator ringmod function is not the
quietest around.

Variable slope filtering (between 12dB/o and 24dB/o) can be done either with
a crossfade between the Omni two pole and four pole outputs (as mentioned in
the phaser reply), or with a crossfade of the two Dual Borg Filter outputs
if they are patched in series.

Each Envelator section can be used as CV divider. During the attack phase
they do not retrigger so raising attack when the trigger input is a wave
below 500 Hz will make the Env. output any whole number division of the
input in length until the Env. maximum slope time is reached. (I don't know
what the output will be if the trigger is above this frequency.) There is
not only a pulse output as with most other dividers (e.g. Serge) but also
the slope output which is shape-stretched as the attack setting approaches
the next whole number.


You see, the Wiard is far more powerful than obvious at second or even third
sight. Also, one often is somewhat deceived by the "6-module-system"
concept - owning a "double system" will multiply the capability by a
trillion (as seen from the frequency shift setup for example). Grant has
realized this by now and tries to lay off the system approach.


Sebastian Kuehnl


<<modules available. Serge, on the other hand, has the most complete line
available NOW in my opinion. The line of modules has not changed too much
since the early 1980s but certainly some useful functions such as the Pulse
Divider and Boolean Logic module have been added by Rex.>>




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Re: Wiard functions (Re: [SergeModular] greetings serge users/a req

2001-06-01 by Sebastian Kuehnl

Oops again - sorry for another addendum - I'm a little hectical today: see
inline

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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:49 PM
Subject: Wiard functions (Re: [SergeModular] greetings serge users/a request
for opinions)


: Hi Bill, John,
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Microtonal" <microtonal@...>
: To: <SergeModular@yahoogroups.com>
: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 4:40 AM
: Subject: Re: [SergeModular] greetings serge users/a request for opinions
:
:
:
: <<I believe you could be happy with any of these systems. The exciting
: thing about MOTM and Wiard is that these systems are still evolving and
you
: can see what new modules are added to the lineups over time. The
: frustration is waiting to see what new modules are added! It may be some
: years before MOTM or Wiard have phasers, frequency shifters, variable
slope
: filters, VC Dividers or boolean logic >>
:
: Wiard:
:
: The Omni filter can work as a phaser (allpass mode). It has
1v/o-calibrated
: and attenuatable exponential inputs, att. linear input (FM), either
positive
: or negative feedback, has outputs shifted by 360 degrees (two poles) and
by
: 720 degrees (four poles) and can be crossfaded into highpass filtering
mode.
:
: Frequency shifting can be realized to a limited extent if you have two
Dual
: Envelators, four (sic) Wavecities and two Mixolators: shape both
quadrature
: related Envelator triangle outputs to sinewaves, ringmodulate the
respective
: sine and cosine signals and add/ subtract for single sideband outputs.
: However the Envelators are controlled linearly for most of the audio
range,
: the sinewaves won't be perfect and the Mixolator ringmod function is not
the
: quietest around.

This is incorrect. Only 2 Wavecities are required: for a near sinusoidial (8
bit approximation) carrier. For sub-audio frequency shifts however (through
zero "barberpole" phasing effect), the variable triangular Envelator outputs
can be used withoput sineshaping. So all required for a limited range of
interesting frequency shift sounds (for example: FM the Envelator which
plays the modulator) is a double Wiard system.


End of addendum

SK

: Variable slope filtering (between 12dB/o and 24dB/o) can be done either
with
: a crossfade between the Omni two pole and four pole outputs (as mentioned
in
: the phaser reply), or with a crossfade of the two Dual Borg Filter outputs
: if they are patched in series.
:
: Each Envelator section can be used as CV divider. During the attack phase
: they do not retrigger so raising attack when the trigger input is a wave
: below 500 Hz will make the Env. output any whole number division of the
: input in length until the Env. maximum slope time is reached. (I don't
know
: what the output will be if the trigger is above this frequency.) There is
: not only a pulse output as with most other dividers (e.g. Serge) but also
: the slope output which is shape-stretched as the attack setting approaches
: the next whole number.
:
:
: You see, the Wiard is far more powerful than obvious at second or even
third
: sight. Also, one often is somewhat deceived by the "6-module-system"
: concept - owning a "double system" will multiply the capability by a
: trillion (as seen from the frequency shift setup for example). Grant has
: realized this by now and tries to lay off the system approach.
:
:
: Sebastian Kuehnl
:
:
: <<modules available. Serge, on the other hand, has the most complete line
: available NOW in my opinion. The line of modules has not changed too much
: since the early 1980s but certainly some useful functions such as the
Pulse
: Divider and Boolean Logic module have been added by Rex.>>
:
:
:
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Re: Wiard functions (Re: [SergeModular] greetings serge users/a req

2001-06-02 by Microtonal

Thanks for the education. Grant should update his Wiard manuals. There's
no mention of the frequency division feature of the Envelator, though one
should guess that considering it's similarity to a Universal Slope
Generator.

John Loffink
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> : Wiard:
> :
> : The Omni filter can work as a phaser (allpass mode). It has
> 1v/o-calibrated
> : and attenuatable exponential inputs, att. linear input (FM), either
> positive
> : or negative feedback, has outputs shifted by 360 degrees (two poles) and
> by
> : 720 degrees (four poles) and can be crossfaded into highpass filtering
> mode.
> :
> : Frequency shifting can be realized to a limited extent if you have two
> Dual
> : Envelators, four (sic) Wavecities and two Mixolators: shape both
> quadrature
> : related Envelator triangle outputs to sinewaves, ringmodulate the
> respective
> : sine and cosine signals and add/ subtract for single sideband outputs.
> : However the Envelators are controlled linearly for most of the audio
> range,
> : the sinewaves won't be perfect and the Mixolator ringmod function is not
> the
> : quietest around.
>
> This is incorrect. Only 2 Wavecities are required: for a near sinusoidial
(8
> bit approximation) carrier. For sub-audio frequency shifts however
(through
> zero "barberpole" phasing effect), the variable triangular Envelator
outputs
> can be used withoput sineshaping. So all required for a limited range of
> interesting frequency shift sounds (for example: FM the Envelator which
> plays the modulator) is a double Wiard system.
>
>
> End of addendum
>
> SK
>
> : Variable slope filtering (between 12dB/o and 24dB/o) can be done either
> with
> : a crossfade between the Omni two pole and four pole outputs (as
mentioned
> in
> : the phaser reply), or with a crossfade of the two Dual Borg Filter
outputs
> : if they are patched in series.
> :
> : Each Envelator section can be used as CV divider. During the attack
phase
> : they do not retrigger so raising attack when the trigger input is a wave
> : below 500 Hz will make the Env. output any whole number division of the
> : input in length until the Env. maximum slope time is reached. (I don't
> know
> : what the output will be if the trigger is above this frequency.) There
is
> : not only a pulse output as with most other dividers (e.g. Serge) but
also
> : the slope output which is shape-stretched as the attack setting
approaches
> : the next whole number.
> :
> :
> : You see, the Wiard is far more powerful than obvious at second or even
> third
> : sight. Also, one often is somewhat deceived by the "6-module-system"
> : concept - owning a "double system" will multiply the capability by a
> : trillion (as seen from the frequency shift setup for example). Grant has
> : realized this by now and tries to lay off the system approach.
> :
> :
> : Sebastian Kuehnl
> :

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