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--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Carbon111 <carbon111@...> wrote:

From: Carbon111 <carbon111@...>
Subject: [SergeModular] New Serge page online - Alphabet Soup #1: The DSG
To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 7:07 AM

Alphabet Soup #1: The DSG:

The DSG is one of the most flexible synthesizer modules ever conceived
and yet in some ways is very simple.

This is first in a series of introductory articles, each focusing on a
specific Serge Function Block.

The Page can be reached through my Serge Index:

http://www.carbon11 1.com/serge_ index.html

...or directly:

http://www.carbon11 1.com/alphabet1. html

Suggestions for which function block (module) to tackle next are most
welcome.

Sorry this was such a long time coming - hopefully some will find it
useful. Thanks again Everybody!

Very Best Regards, James
--
http://www.carbon11 1.com

>
>

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Carbon111 <carbon111@...> wrote:
>
> Alphabet Soup #1: The DSG:
>
> The DSG is one of the most flexible synthesizer modules ever conceived
> and yet in some ways is very simple.
>
> This is first in a series of introductory articles, each focusing on a
> specific Serge Function Block.
>
> The Page can be reached through my Serge Index:
>
> http://www.carbon111.com/serge_index.html
>
> ...or directly:
>
> http://www.carbon111.com/alphabet1.html
>
> Suggestions for which function block (module) to tackle next are most
> welcome.
>
> Sorry this was such a long time coming - hopefully some will find it
> useful. Thanks again Everybody!
>
> Very Best Regards, James
> --
> http://www.carbon111.com
>

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "jamescigler" <jamescigler@...> wrote:

> I'd like to suggest the Smooth/Stepped Generator next. I'm pretty sure I understand each
> half well enough, but I'd love to see what other possibilities are unlocked through the
> patch-programmability of the Serge.

--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Christopher Jon <iparasite@...> wrote:

From: Christopher Jon <iparasite@...>
Subject: [SergeModular] Re: New Serge page online - Alphabet Soup #1: The DSG
To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:29 PM

I'll second that.

Great resource, thanks!

//Chris

--- In SergeModular@ yahoogroups. com, "jamescigler" <jamescigler@ ...> wrote:

> I'd like to suggest the Smooth/Stepped Generator next. I'm pretty sure I understand each
> half well enough, but I'd love to see what other possibilities are unlocked through the
> patch-programmabili ty of the Serge.

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, Carbon111 <carbon111@...> wrote:
>
> Alphabet Soup #1: The DSG:
>
> The DSG is one of the most flexible synthesizer modules ever conceived
> and yet in some ways is very simple.
>
> This is first in a series of introductory articles, each focusing on a
> specific Serge Function Block.
>
> http://www.carbon111.com/alphabet1.html

>
> Hi James,
>
> thanks for doing this! I just have one comment: I am missing an
> explicit mention of the
> DSG (and DTGs) behavior to ignore any signal at their TRIG INs for as
> long as they are
> producing envelopes. While this is the reason why DSG/DTG can do such
> wonderful things
> as acting as subharmonic generators / frequency counters, it is also
> the reason why it
> can't act as a real AD envelope, which can be a pain when setting up
> more conventional
> sounds (e.g. non-self-playing percussive sounds that are triggered by
> a keyboard or
> sequencer).
>
> I wish I'd spend more thought about this detail while putting together
> my custom panel to
> complement my Animal, which is now missing an ADSR. Luckily there are
> the DUAL ADSR
> M-CLASS available...which means making a new custom case.
>
> Best regards,
> Jan-Hinnerk
>
> -
>

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, John P <johnp299792@...> wrote:
>
> The retriggering problem you mention is only a nuisance with longer
> attack times.
> If you send a gate to 'INPUT' instead of 'TRIG IN' and use fairly short
> attack times, you can work around
> this limitation.
>
>
> metafoetus2002 wrote:
> >
> > Hi James,
> >
> > thanks for doing this! I just have one comment: I am missing an
> > explicit mention of the
> > DSG (and DTGs) behavior to ignore any signal at their TRIG INs for as
> > long as they are
> > producing envelopes. While this is the reason why DSG/DTG can do such
> > wonderful things
> > as acting as subharmonic generators / frequency counters, it is also
> > the reason why it
> > can't act as a real AD envelope, which can be a pain when setting up
> > more conventional
> > sounds (e.g. non-self-playing percussive sounds that are triggered by
> > a keyboard or
> > sequencer).
> >
> > I wish I'd spend more thought about this detail while putting together
> > my custom panel to
> > complement my Animal, which is now missing an ADSR. Luckily there are
> > the DUAL ADSR
> > M-CLASS available...which means making a new custom case.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jan-Hinnerk
> >
> > -
> >
>

On Dec 21, 2008, at 6:45 AM, zaum <zaum@...> wrote:

Good work and looking forward to more!

One idea I've been thinking about, though I haven't actually
implemented it, would be to to profile a module at a time and have
either a blog-style comment interface or Wiki interface going. I
wasn't thinking of starting with Serge by the way, but seeing the
start of something at Carbon111's site got me thinking again. It
would allow readers could add more uses, details, corrections, etc.
on a specific module and they'd be all collected in one place.

The thing is from a reader's standpoint, sometimes I read something
on a site I like that's maybe partly wrong or lacks some info.
(Though that didn't happen on the DSG page, except perhaps I'd ask
explain why the acronym is "DSG" rather than "DUSG") I'll probably e-
mail the owner if it's something crucial, though for a small tip or
not really critical comment I likely might not. So it's been
occurring to me that maybe a module at a time with user comments
might make a great place to stop and share knowledge on a particular
module.

Anyway, just mentioning the idea for someone like Carbon111 to
consider using.

Nicholas Kent

my minimal blog
http://illudium.blogspot.com/

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Keep on Patchin'!
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Several of us on the Muff Wiggler forum wanted to do something similar and decided to create a wiki instead of managing it inside the forum.

It's format agnostic, so anyone is very welcome to contribute. Serge, euro, Wiard, frac, etc.

wiki.muffwiggler.com

-james

>
> hello group
>
> i had a very exciting day today, because my Animal arrived
>
> except that i'm very impressed & excited and i think i have some problem
> with the NTO
>
> if i turn the knob for the FM Intensity (labeled FC FM) i got very
> strong changes in pitch even if there's nothing inserted in "In FM"
>
> also if something is FM-ing the VCO , when i turn the Intensity knob i
> get a strange pitchshift - i doubt this is a nomal behaviour
>
> pleas listen to my sound sample and tell me if this is normal
>
> http://www.verstaerker-music.info/upload/music/Animal_FM_test.mp3
> <http://www.verstaerker-music.info/upload/music/Animal_FM_test.mp3>
> (nothing instered in In FM - just turning the Inensity knob)
>
> unless u tell me this is the normal behaviour, i'll have to contact Rex
> about this issue
>
> thanx everybody
>
>

>
> Thanks for the nice words, guys!
>
> As far as the SSG goes, well, the SSG isn't very high on my list because
> John Papiewski has an *excellent* in-depth series of articles on Egres:

> At this point, I'm thinking of doing "Alphabet Soup #2" on the
> Divide-By-N Comparator. The Wave Multipliers and Variable Q VCF are high
> on my list as well.

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, "Coalstar" <carbon111@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> > That's why I think the information about the DSG/DTG not being
> retriggerable on it INPUT
> > jacks should be mentioned on James's excellent page on the DSG.
>
> I think you're correct, the ASR patch mentioned on my page isn't
> really a good enough work-around (or at least not a transparent one)so
> I will add the "non-retriggerability"-during-a-cycle as a caveat on my
> 1st Alphabet Soup page.
>
> I probably won't get any time with my system until after the holidays
> and there are a couple of things I still want to try so I'll revise
> the page at that time.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Best Regards, James
> --
> http://www.carbon111.com/serge_index.html
>