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Chris,

My decision to add an "Animal" panel was based on the fact that I use the "Polyrhythmic Modulator" patch which I posted on the file sharing space a lot. It effectively "uses up" 3 modules. The Random Noise Generator, the Smooth/Stepped Generator, and a Dual Transient Generator. I pretty much keep these three patched up most of the time in this configuration. While I do have another of each of these modules, I often find myself wanting the used DTG while working. The Animal panel offers a special configuration of these modules together in a cluster, designed to do exactly what the patch that I am using does. It will allow me to free up 3 modules that are mostly dedicated now, and get the new configuration. Another incentive is that Rex is pretty adamant that he does Not want to build this new configuration into Any custom panels. for the time being, it is available Only on the Animal. He indicated that he Might include it in custom panels in the future, but it will be at a premium. The only thing that makes the Animal look likw a voice module is the fact that it's got a couple of oscillators. Even if you were doing pure audio signal processing, the PCO at low freq. setting is the best and most stable VC clock in the whole system, and the NTO can be used as much for frq. modulation as for voice production. The polyrythmic setup, along with the filters and VCAs, make this a pretty versatile panel. Add a Soup Kitchen 1, w/ Preamp/Env.follower,Freq. Shifter, WAD, Resonant EQ, Dual Phase Shifter, and a stereo output section, and you've got a processing setup that can perform as a synth if you need it. You're only talking about 2 osc.s here. As an aside, Rex has told me that part of his long-term personal plans will be to eventually retire himself from building the shop panels and let others do them, while he concentrates on custom work, as this is what he enjoys. There may come a time when these shop panels are looked upon not with disdain, but with lust instead. My system is made of six shop panels and one semi-custom panel. With the addition of the Animal, and one fully custom panel just to get the modules not offered on Any shop panel, It will be Very complete. you have to look at the shop panels and ask yourself why they were configured the way they are. These are not arbitrary configurations. If you order them carefully, you can grow the system as you like. I recieved my system of seven panels five days after placing the order, and have never felt that a custom system would have offered more. Just thinking,

Barry

"C. Whitten" <chris@...> wrote:

The modules contained in the 'Animal Panel' are listed under the
Wizardry/Shop Panels section of the Egres site.
Derrick asked specifically about audio processing, the animal panel seems to
my mind to have more in common with a synthesizer voice. For audio
processing I think one of the 'Soup Kitchen' panels would be a better bet.
I haven't been convinced about any advantages going down the shop panel
route. I've never seen a price quote to compare with a custom panel, that
would be interesting. I can see that the turnaround would be quicker but at
the end of the day, with the panels being so costly, I can't understand any
decision to order modules other than those you are convinced you need (or
want).
CW


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>There may come a time when these shop panels are looked upon not with disdain,

CW,

I find that the one thing I run out of quickly and need at least a couple more of is the UAP. I use these as pretty much conventional VCAs, to do audio event shaping before going out to the "Real" world via the DCSM. I use the stereo module as a master out L/R. Since I have a "red" panel and a "blue" panel in the same SKB case, I get four VCA channels with two auto-panning pairs, I take the first two and hit the inputs of the DCSM, left and right. I take the second two and put them into the Aux ins of the DCSM, creating a four in, two out mixer at the DCSM. this works really well and gives really controllable mult. gain stages, like you would see in a normal mixer. The addition of the "Animal" will give me another two VCAs, in the additional UAP, which I really need at this point. It does create the problem of not having enough master output stages however. Rex suggested that, since I was really happy with using the DCSM as an output mixer, I should put another one in the last module position of the custom panel and mount it underneath the soup kitchen1, which will give me 4 channels out to mix, and eight channels of input. This is the poor mans' quad output,and saves the panel space of a multi channel Serge mixer. So I don't see the 3 UAPs (I intend to mount the animal underneath the red and blue panels, creating a "voice block" and lineing up all the UAPs down the right side of one SKB) and the 2 DCSMs as reiterative at all. It's just the voice/event-shaping/output section, and I keep it mostly patched that way. The exception is when I want to do something tricky using a UAP, and then I still need an extra one in order to keep my "normal" output section.

Maybe "lust" is too strong a word, but I actually dreamed at night about Serge patches for years before I bought mine. I had studied the system and put together many mock-ups on paper, Including a pretty much perfect (for me) 12 panel system. I now feel that mine will be pretty much complete at nine panels, but there are some modules coming in the future that may make me rethink that again.

BarelyM

"C. Whitten" <chris@...> wrote:

I'm
not sure I would want 3 x UAP and another output module, namely DCSM.
CW


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"C. Whitten" wrote:

The modules contained in the 'Animal Panel' are listed under the
Wizardry/Shop Panels section of the Egres site.
Derrick asked specifically about audio processing, the animal panel seems to
my mind to have more in common with a synthesizer voice. For audio
processing I think one of the 'Soup Kitchen' panels would be a better bet.
I haven't been convinced about any advantages going down the shop panel
route.

i own a shop soup kitchen panel, seen here:

http://home.pacbell.net/mbwlaw/inside.htm

advantages: four years ago, i already owned three panels and was in the market for another. i stopped by
STS for a lunch date with rex. the soup panel was sitting there, blinking away in test mode (fellow SMOGgers,
this is something to behold: perhaps a dozen brand new panels on a big table, internally patched, and running for
days on end.....). rex said "hey you need one of these, you don't have any of these modules". i was looking for
a WAD, freq shifter, phaser, VSVCF, etc. "here, let me show you" says rex, and he proceeds to hook up just the
SK and injects a james brown CD for processing. wild! i want it! but its expensive: no real savings over a custom
job. rex says "here, take it. use it for a couple weeks and if you want it we'll work it out". a couple weeks later, of
course, i ponied up the bucks.

so i'm fully aware this story doens't *really* count as an "advantages of a shop panel" story, but needless to say,
it worked for me: there was immediate gratification (a serge oxymoron if there ever was one!) and it just so happened
that i wanted/needed ALL the modules.

also, if time is money, you save a heck of a lot of time getting a shop panel. has anyone ever simply called/wrote rex with
a panel and that was that? i doubt it! you're going to spend a lot of time on the phone/faxing, and after that they've got to
do the graphic, get it back from the negative shop, etc. while i've never had to wait for a shop unit, i'd hope that then and now
the turnaround time is shortened.

its a beautiful day!

your moderator,

matt

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Matt,

Thanks for the great pix.

Barry

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This is a follow-up on the post a while ago concerning uses of UAP, DCSM.

I just posted a graphic of a patch to the Files area. Guess I'm just a "pictures" guy. Prose patch explanations can get pretty dry - so here's a picture!

I don't normally use up all the 3 channel mixers this way, but it is possible to get lots of input channels. Of course you could eliminate the UAPs altogether and just make a straight mixer, eliminating the EGs and Auto-Panning. Sounds like Matt is using some part of this patch on his system too. URL is

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SergeModular

See Yas,

Barry

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>rex says "here, take it. use it for a couple weeks and if you want it we'll