Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

Probably we should define "share" a bit more detailed. I hope that everybody agrees that schematics are a valuable intellectual property. Especially the Simmons schematics are still "owned" by a company named "Sound Unit" which is the last "Simmons Drums" company. This company still exists! For that reason I would not share those schematics at a public place. On the other hand I am glad to know where I can get them to get my 6 fixed (or for Michael to get my 6 fixed :-P )
For that reason I can only thank Fabio for giving Michael the schematics - for free. And once my SDS6 will run again I know I owe both of them a big favour (like a couple of bugs or hugs and kisses, whatever they deserve)

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
>
> Hello list,
> 
> I was several times asking the list for the SDS6 CPU schematics sheet ( I had all other ones). Nobody was willing to share it. Some days ago, Fabio payed a lot of money to complete the SDS6 schematics. He cleaned them with photoshop and shared them with me immediately FREE.
> 
> So, several questions occur and please think about them:
> 
> First: The CPU sheet was available all the time but the owners were not willing to share. I know at least two people who had the sheet and did'nt react to my "plea". Why did they hold it back? And why can you get it if you pay? 
> 
> Second: How shall I behave in the future? I always help people with advice, manuals and schematics FREE. But in this case: If anybody is asking for SDS6 schematics, shall I give these for free although Fabio payed a lot of money for the CPU sheet? Or charge a little money to give Fabio something back? Funny, isn't it?
> 
> Best
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: jesper 
>   To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:01 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Schematics / service manuals I'm looking for....Help
> 
> 
>     
>   I meant Wolfgang, not Michael. My bad. Anyway, Paul has a site: 
>   www.simmons.synth.net with manuals that sometimes appear for sale 
>   online. Wolfgang runs http://simmonsmuseum.com/?area=manuals which 
>   contains a lot too.
> 
>   -- 
>   electronically yours, jesper
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>   fabiobarker skrev 2012-02-02 00:07:
>   > Paul and Michael website? which website?
>   > I agree with you about people selling schematics/manuals
>   >
>   > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>   > <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Hi,
>   > >
>   > > So now we're back in a discussion I don't really want to have, but I
>   > > don't want to be a fascist moderator either. I think many
>   > > misunderstandings on this list is due to the fact that we have very
>   > > different backgrounds as far as languages go... (Patiently awaiting
>   > > offline abuse...)
>   > >
>   > > Anyway - I love, as a collector/service guy of my own gear, if people
>   > > share and upload schematics. I think those who sell copies for profit
>   > > are mostly crooks.
>   > >
>   > > My post below was regarding people selling copies that is available for
>   > > free on Paul's and Michael's sites. Same goes for eprom sounds on Ebay
>   > > and similar.
>   > >
>   > > So Fabio, it was not to harrass you.
>   > >
>   > > Pax,
>   > > --
>   > > electronically yours, jesper
>   > >
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>   > >
>   > >
>   > > fabiobarker skrev 2012-02-01 15:58:
>   > > > If I got the schematics is because I paid for it but...who will claim
>   > > > copyright for the schematics? Simmons didn't have the power to keep the
>   > > > Name but will claim the schematics copyright?
>   > > > I think is the anally retentive nature of gear collectors, there are
>   > > > exception obviously not everybody is an idiot keeping everything to
>   > > > himself or trying to charge an abussive price for a single Simmons
>   > part.
>   > > > But it's ok I will pretend I believe you and I will keep all to myself
>   > > > to allow to the same people to keep geting profit with Simmons stuff.
>   > > >
>   > > > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>   > <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>
>   > > > <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Just to be clear: I believe that the issue of sharing wasn't the main
>   > > > > concern. Selling copyrighted stuff, uploading someoneelse's scans and
>   > > > > similar without giving credit was though.
>   > > > > I know many here would appreciate links to schematics and manuals not
>   > > > > already out there. But putting them in the yahoogroups database might
>   > > > > not be that good. There is not that much space and yahoogroups do
>   > need
>   > > > > to listen when Big Brother comes waving his SOPA-banner....
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Just my thoughts,
>   > > > >
>   > > > > --
>   > > > > electronically yours, jesper
>   > > > >
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>   > >
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