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You sir, have made my day! Thank you very much! I think with time I will understand the dynamics and effects settings a bit more, but for now, this is exactly what I was looking for.

Thomas

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> I made a tutorial that I posted in the archives since, as Patrice said, 
> it's a real pain to program. I might have it here as well...
> 
> *searching*
> 
> Yes, I did. This is concerned with note and midi channel design. Not 
> resonse curves and effects. Feel free to ask if you experience problems. 
> I have this setup on my three MTM's. My SDS-7 (8 channels) has a 
> dedicated MTM and runs on the second octave on the keybard, the SDS-V (7 
> channels) on the third octave and the last MTM is placed on octave four 
> and the outputs goes to a patchbay (currently patched to SDS-III and 
> Syndrum Quad). Which note numbers and channels you want are your choice. 
> Take this as a guide...
> 
> Here it is in text form:
> 
> ---
> 
> SETTING UP THE MTM TO ACCEPT MIDI ON CHANNEL 16 WHERE CHANNEL 1 
> RES-PONDS TO VELOCITY ON LOWEST C UP TO CHANNEL 7 RESPONDING TO LOWEST F#.
> 
> Press [on] (no shit - what a start!)
> After power up it comes to rest at (play patch)
> Press [all/default] until the (F) disappears from the display top right.
> Press [patch]
> Press [edit] *takes us into editing mode*
> Press [process] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (01)
> Press [edit] *takes us out of editing mode*
> Press [route]
> Press [edit] *takes us into editing mode*
> Press [process] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (99)
> *easiest imho, just stepping down, but any between 21 and 99 will do*
> Press [edit] *takes us out of editing mode*
> Press [effect]
> Press [edit] *takes us into editing mode*
> Press [process] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (01)
> Press [edit] *takes us out of editing mode*
> *all this is mainly to determine that nothing is messed up prior to 
> editing. My units was set up by former owners and they seemed to be 
> drummers*
> 
> Press [route]
> Press [edit] *takes us into editing mode*
> Press [no] or [yes] if necessary, to show (99)
> Press [trig in] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (01)
> Press [midi chan/note] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows 
> (16)
> *can be any number, but in my case it's 16. Please note that you cannot 
> cycle this sequence*
> Press [midi note] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (C3)
> *This is, in my case, lowest C. Double check with your own master 
> keyboard, but the MTM seems to one octave off compared to my master and 
> two octaves off compared to Cubase on Atari. This caused massive 
> confusion first time I tried to solve the puzzle*
> Press [trig out] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (01)
> *now input 1 is routed to output 1, you can fiddle with this in your own 
> way later, if you prefer it another way... stay with me now* :D
> 
> 
> 
> Press [store] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (99)
> *we did this earlier, but I chose to include it for double safety, 
> (01)-(20) are factory presets and unusable for us deadly*
> Press [store]
> *confirms the action*
> 
> Continue from "Press [trig in]" above, but choose (02), [midi chan/note] 
> (16), [midi note] (C3#), [trig out] (02) and end with the storing sequence.
> *the MTM have a lousy short term memory, so better safe than sorry and 
> save often* :)
> 
> Continue with inputs (03)-(07) like above and make sure that all are set 
> the same for ins and out, all uses midi channel (16) and are spread 
> across the octave as (D3) to (F3#).
> 
> Press [edit] *takes us out of editing mode*
> 
> SETTING UP THE MTM SO THAT THE MIDI CONTROL CHANGE DEVICE
> (I E PEDAL OR SIMILAR) CONTROLS CHANNEL 8 (HIHAT)
> 
> Press [midi] *takes us into editing mode*
> Press [option/select] three times (midi ch8)
> Press [yes] until it says (HIHAT)
> Press [yes] until it says (16)
> Press [option/select] followed by [no] or [yes] to select midi control 
> change channel
> *I haven't got the channel specs here, but choose whichever you prefer. 
> You can also program control changes into your sequencer if that seems 
> more handy. See the manual for the sequencer!*
> Press [midi] *takes us out of editing mode*
> *this hihat setting overrides all other trigger settings regarding
> channel 8*
> 
> --- end --- 					Jesper Ödemark 2010-07-04
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> Jacquot.Patrice@... skrev 2013-05-15 16:57:
> > Hi Thomas,
> > Well it should work fine. The MtM is a hell to program , depends what
> > you wanna do.
> > I used mine just to trigg easily & basically sdsV, 7 ,III IV & whatever
> > don't have Midi & it does the job very well.
> > I still didn't manage to make work fine the hihat...but some fellows did
> > it !
> >
> > Sorry I don't have any tips, as I never remember how I set things
> > previously from a week to another sometimes. MtM is a beast but you need
> > to dig into it (via the manual) to fully understand different access to
> > different functions.
> > For me it's really a pain... so I'm happy with basic functions (midi
> > notes , dynamics) & have no will for Bruford chordal drum stuff. Even if
> > I love when HE does it ...
> >
> > Good luck !
> > Patrice.
> >
> > ----- Mail d'origine -----
> > De: Thomas <tom@... <mailto:tom%40drummertom.com>>
> > À: Simmons Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Envoyé: Wed, 15 May 2013 15:55:20 +0200 (CEST)
> > Objet: [Simmons Drums] MTM & SDSV via MIDI
> >
> > Hello all!
> >
> > Long time lurker, and seldom poster here...
> >
> > I have been searching through the old postings, but I haven't been able
> > to find any good answers so far. What I am trying to do, is trigger an
> > SDSV via MIDI, utilizing an MTM. I have been reading through the manual,
> > and I can see that the default notes to play with on the MIDI side are
> > C4 E4 G4 B4 C5 E5 G5 B5. I am really only concerned with the 4th octave
> > notes, since the SDSV currently only has 4 modules installed. I took the
> > 3rd TOM out and placed it in the SDSV I use for "live" playing. (
> > Incidentally, the unit I want to trigger via MIDI is serial #284, which
> > I am led to believe was once owned and used by Michael Dawe, drummer for
> > Robert Palmer, just in case anyone was interested. )
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with triggering in this manner, and if so,
> > do they have any tips that I can use to program the MTM in a quick and
> > easy fashion? Anything helps really. The manual doesn't seem to cover
> > what I am specifically attempting to do, but I may be overlooking it...
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Thomas
> >
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