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Well, as far as I know the "original" manual was already a photocopy
of a typewriter master. So what is original? 

http://www.simmonsmuseum.com/?area=downloads&download_id=234
This one is "close to original" then

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superwolle70 skrev:
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> Well, as far as I know the "original" manual was already a photocopy
> of a typewriter master. So what is original?
> 
> http://www.simmonsmuseum.com/?area=downloads&download_id=234 
> <http://www.simmonsmuseum.com/?area=downloads&download_id=234>
> This one is "close to original" then

Wow - a VST version! Is it compatible with reason? ;)

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Superwolle... you say here; 
http://www.simmonsmuseum.com/?area=devices&view=details&id=15
that the SDS-7 is digital with analogue filters. Have I misunderstood it 
totally or aren't there analogue sound generators as well as digital. In 
parallell so to speak?!

Also cool with the "avoid it on the road" warning since my SDS-7 have 
done quite a lot of touring with it's previous owner (Tony Holmes of 
Ultravox, 90's edition). But as always with old gear I guess it depends 
on the quality of each unit. Machines that have survived 20 years have a 
tendency to last at least ten more...

:)

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> Superwolle... you say here; 
> http://www.simmonsmuseum.com/?area=devices&view=details&id=15
> that the SDS-7 is digital with analogue filters. Have I
misunderstood it 
> totally or aren't there analogue sound generators as well as
digital. In 
> parallell so to speak?!

You are right. There are also analog sound generators

> 
> Also cool with the "avoid it on the road" warning since my SDS-7 have 
> done quite a lot of touring with it's previous owner (Tony Holmes of 
> Ultravox, 90's edition). But as always with old gear I guess it depends 
> on the quality of each unit. Machines that have survived 20 years
have a 
> tendency to last at least ten more...


I can only say that my two units are poor quality. Moreover the SDS7
was internally called the "Simmons Cabasa" because of the none
reliable module slots: The modules do not stick tight in the slots. It
was the unit with the most returns

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:-(

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> FRA – arkivera under "synnerligen misstänkt"
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superwolle70 skrev:
> You are right. There are also analog sound generators

OK, maybe good with an update to clarify it? And no, I haven't forgotten 
that I would look into scanning one of my two SDS-3 manuals.

>  > Also cool with the "avoid it on the road" warning since my SDS-7 have
>  > done quite a lot of touring with it's previous owner (Tony Holmes of
>  > Ultravox, 90's edition). But as always with old gear I guess it depends
>  > on the quality of each unit. Machines that have survived 20 years
> have a
>  > tendency to last at least ten more...
> 
> I can only say that my two units are poor quality. Moreover the SDS7
> was internally called the "Simmons Cabasa" because of the none
> reliable module slots: The modules do not stick tight in the slots. It
> was the unit with the most returns

I can imagine. It _feels_ cheesy. I only meant that those which were 
destined to break down did that fairly early in most cases. So for each 
passing year unit survives it only proves it's a good example. Not a 
"måndagsexemplar" ("monday copy") as the expression is in Sweden...

One of my other passions, british synth maker EDP, had a lot of returns 
of the Wasp. As much as they referred to it as a flood of returns. 
Still, most copies today on the market are really good ones. I bet the 
crappy units were sorted out back then... *avoiding Darwinistic 
similarities*

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That reminds me, that superwolles second SDS7 unit is here in my shop waiting for its new RAMs. By the way, I have converted (no joke) most of its cards to HIHATs now (as discussed earlier). Anybody out there interested in SDS7 HIHAT cards equipped with copy of original eprom (or customised others)? And schematic of a cable adaptor making a Roland pedal suitable for SDS7 dynamic open/close/chick/splash action?
Write to superwolle (he is the owner of the cards) for financial details. It is also possible to get cymbals. There will be 8 cards in total for sale.
Michael
 

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clarified....

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
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> superwolle70 skrev:
> > You are right. There are also analog sound generators
> 
> OK, maybe good with an update to clarify it? And no, I haven't
forgotten 
> that I would look into scanning one of my two SDS-3 manuals.
> 
> >  > Also cool with the "avoid it on the road" warning since my
SDS-7 have
> >  > done quite a lot of touring with it's previous owner (Tony
Holmes of
> >  > Ultravox, 90's edition). But as always with old gear I guess it
depends

> >  > on the quality of each unit. Machines that have survived 20 years
> > have a
> >  > tendency to last at least ten more...
> > 
> > I can only say that my two units are poor quality. Moreover the SDS7
> > was internally called the "Simmons Cabasa" because of the none
> > reliable module slots: The modules do not stick tight in the slots. It
> > was the unit with the most returns
> 
> I can imagine. It _feels_ cheesy. I only meant that those which were 
> destined to break down did that fairly early in most cases. So for each 
> passing year unit survives it only proves it's a good example. Not a 
> "måndagsexemplar" ("monday copy") as the expression is in Sweden...
> 
> One of my other passions, british synth maker EDP, had a lot of returns 
> of the Wasp. As much as they referred to it as a flood of returns. 
> Still, most copies today on the market are really good ones. I bet the 
> crappy units were sorted out back then... *avoiding Darwinistic 
> similarities*
> 
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
> www.myspace.com/machinepop
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> 
> FRA – arkivera under "synnerligen misstänkt"
>