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2009-12-16 by fexus.fexus
Hi, I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. Some pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another pad), and some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm who can help me? Thanks for any help //Felix
2009-12-16 by WT
Hi Felix, nice that you found your way into here. You can access all previous messages from the yahoo groups simmons page. There you should be able to search for other emails with Mallet info. Good luck ! WT ----- Original Message -----
From: "fexus.fexus" <felix.martinz@...> To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: [Simmons Drums] Simmons Silicon Mallet repair > Hi, > > I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. Some > pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another pad), and > some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. > I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. > > Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm who > can help me? > > Thanks for any help > > //Felix > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2009-12-16 by superwolle70
as far as I know (I might be wrong) the triggers are also based on FSR technology (force sensing resistor foils). The company "Interlink Electronic" still exists. Probably a resource for spare parts: http://www.interlinkelectronics.com/force_sensors/products/forcesensingresistors/standardsensors.html Best Wolfgang --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "fexus.fexus" <felix.martinz@...> wrote:
> > Hi, > > I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. Some pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another pad), and some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. > I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. > > Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm who can help me? > > Thanks for any help > > //Felix >
2009-12-16 by jesper
fexus.fexus skrev: > Hi, Hi (or Hej!) Felix and welcome to the list! > I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. > Some pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another > pad), and some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. > I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. > > Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm who > can help me? I bet there are some owners on the list who can help with the trigger business but the Mallet is a temperamental unit. Is it piezo triggers or some other design in that one? Piezos are both easy to change and quite cheap to replace. > Thanks for any help Can I ask how much you payed? Bought in Sweden? -- electronically yours, jesper - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - www.electronic-obsession.se www.myspace.com/machinepop
2009-12-16 by Berk Aarts
I have the controller (the pads) fully working but my controller died out If it makes you happy, we can arrange something for a very special price Berk PS it's in holland >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com >From: "fexus.fexus" <felix.martinz@...> >Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:39:38 -0000 >Subject: [Simmons Drums] Simmons Silicon Mallet repair >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com > > >Hi, > >I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. Some >pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another pad), and >some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. >I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. > >Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm who can
>help me? > >Thanks for any help > >//Felix >
2009-12-16 by Berk Aarts
Indeed, there are a bunch off FSR sheets in there Some one over here helped me quit nice with a little article on resistant glue<?> (does this make sense??) and shooting stables cleaning the fsr's could help a lot too The advantage is that the sillicon mallet triggers really accurate On the other hand, it's extrmely noise, and plays like hell. drumpads don't feel like real drums, we know that, but a sillicon mallet doesn't feel like a marimba, it's more a sax where you try to play guitar on. on the other hand, experimenting with different sticks helps a lot Berk >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com >From: "superwolle70" <superwolle70@yahoo.de> >Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:05:22 -0000 >Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons Silicon Mallet repair >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com > > >as far as I know (I might be wrong) the triggers are also based on FSR technology >(force sensing resistor foils). The company "Interlink Electronic" still >exists. Probably a resource for spare parts: >http://www.interlinkelectronics.com/force_sensors/products/forcesensingresistors/standardsensors.html > >Best >Wolfgang > > > >--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "fexus.fexus" <felix.martinz@...> wrote:
>> >> Hi, >> >> I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. Some >pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another pad), and >some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. >> I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. >> >> Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm who >can help me? >> >> Thanks for any help >> >> //Felix >> > >
2009-12-17 by martinzdotse
First of all, thanks to everyone who replied! Berk, can you explain a little more about cleaning the fsr? I didn't totally get it... Do you think I can do it myself and do you think it's possible to clean what's inside instead of replacing it? //Felix --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...> wrote:
> > Indeed, there are a bunch off FSR sheets in there > Some one over here helped me quit nice with a little article on resistant > glue<?> (does this make sense??) and shooting stables > cleaning the fsr's could help a lot too > > The advantage is that the sillicon mallet triggers really accurate > On the other hand, it's extrmely noise, and plays like hell. drumpads don't > feel like real drums, we know that, but a sillicon mallet doesn't feel like > a marimba, it's more a sax where you try to play guitar on. on the other > hand, experimenting with different sticks helps a lot > > Berk > > > > >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- > >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com > >From: "superwolle70" <superwolle70@...> > >Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:05:22 -0000 > >Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons Silicon Mallet repair > >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >as far as I know (I might be wrong) the triggers are also based on FSR technology > >(force sensing resistor foils). The company "Interlink Electronic" still > >exists. Probably a resource for spare parts: > >http://www.interlinkelectronics.com/force_sensors/products/forcesensingresistors/standardsensors.html > > > >Best > >Wolfgang > > > > > > > >--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "fexus.fexus" <felix.martinz@> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. Some > >pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another pad), and > >some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. > >> I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. > >> > >> Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm who > >can help me? > >> > >> Thanks for any help > >> > >> //Felix > >> > > > > >
2009-12-17 by martinzdotse
Hej, I'll still write in english so everybody will understand. I asked on 99musik.se about repairing a this Silicon Mallet and a Roland Octapad 2, and got a reply about some foil "pancakes" inside the Roland. And if Wolfgang is right the Silicon Mallet seems to use the same kind of pickups. I haven't paid anything yet. First I will make this thing work, then I think I'll get a nice price. :) The owner doesn't use it anymore. Uppenbarligen. //Felix --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
> > fexus.fexus skrev: > > Hi, > > Hi (or Hej!) Felix and welcome to the list! > > > I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. > > Some pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another > > pad), and some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. > > I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. > > > > Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm who > > can help me? > > I bet there are some owners on the list who can help with the trigger > business but the Mallet is a temperamental unit. > > Is it piezo triggers or some other design in that one? Piezos are both > easy to change and quite cheap to replace. > > > Thanks for any help > > Can I ask how much you payed? Bought in Sweden? > > -- > electronically yours, jesper > > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - > www.electronic-obsession.se > www.myspace.com/machinepop >
2009-12-17 by jesper
Berk Aarts skrev: > Indeed, there are a bunch off FSR sheets in there > Some one over here helped me quit nice with a little article on resistant > glue<?> (does this make sense??) and shooting stables > cleaning the fsr's could help a lot too > > The advantage is that the sillicon mallet triggers really accurate > On the other hand, it's extrmely noise, and plays like hell. drumpads don't > feel like real drums, we know that, but a sillicon mallet doesn't feel like > a marimba, it's more a sax where you try to play guitar on. on the other > hand, experimenting with different sticks helps a lot Have you ever played a Star Synare 1 or 2 with sticks, expecting feel? Don't! :D -- electronically yours, jesper - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - www.electronic-obsession.se www.myspace.com/machinepop
2009-12-17 by Berk Aarts
something like that >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com >From: jesper <jesper@...> >Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:17:01 +0100 >Subject: Re: Betr: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons Silicon Mallet repair >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com > > >Berk Aarts skrev: >> Indeed, there are a bunch off FSR sheets in there >> Some one over here helped me quit nice with a little article on resistant >> glue<?> (does this make sense??) and shooting stables >> cleaning the fsr's could help a lot too >> >> The advantage is that the sillicon mallet triggers really accurate >> On the other hand, it's extrmely noise, and plays like hell. drumpads don't
>> feel like real drums, we know that, but a sillicon mallet doesn't feel >like >> a marimba, it's more a sax where you try to play guitar on. on the other >> hand, experimenting with different sticks helps a lot > >Have you ever played a Star Synare 1 or 2 with sticks, expecting feel? > >Don't! :D > >-- >electronically yours, jesper > >- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - >www.electronic-obsession.se >www.myspace.com/machinepop > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2009-12-17 by Berk Aarts
will be getting back to you and yes, if I can do, you are able to greeting Berk >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com >From: "martinzdotse" <felix.martinz@...> >Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:53:02 -0000 >Subject: Betr: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons Silicon Mallet repair >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com > > >First of all, thanks to everyone who replied! > >Berk, can you explain a little more about cleaning the fsr? I didn't totally >get it... >Do you think I can do it myself and do you think it's possible to clean what's >inside instead of replacing it? > >//Felix > >--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...> wrote: >> >> Indeed, there are a bunch off FSR sheets in there >> Some one over here helped me quit nice with a little article on resistant >> glue<?> (does this make sense??) and shooting stables >> cleaning the fsr's could help a lot too >> >> The advantage is that the sillicon mallet triggers really accurate >> On the other hand, it's extrmely noise, and plays like hell. drumpads don't >> feel like real drums, we know that, but a sillicon mallet doesn't feel >like >> a marimba, it's more a sax where you try to play guitar on. on the other >> hand, experimenting with different sticks helps a lot >> >> Berk >> >> >> >> >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- >> >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com >> >From: "superwolle70" <superwolle70@...> >> >Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:05:22 -0000 >> >Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons Silicon Mallet repair >> >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com >> > >> > >> >as far as I know (I might be wrong) the triggers are also based on FSR >technology >> >(force sensing resistor foils). The company "Interlink Electronic" still >> >exists. Probably a resource for spare parts: >> >http://www.interlinkelectronics.com/force_sensors/products/forcesensingresistors/standardsensors.html >> > >> >Best >> >Wolfgang >> > >> > >> > >> >--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "fexus.fexus" <felix.martinz@> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. >Some >> >pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another pad), and
>> >some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. >> >> I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. >> >> >> >> Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm >who >> >can help me? >> >> >> >> Thanks for any help >> >> >> >> //Felix >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
2009-12-17 by Berk Aarts
I bet, the Roland uses piezo disks, different then simmons >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com >From: "martinzdotse" <felix.martinz@...> >Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:03:58 -0000 >Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Simmons Silicon Mallet repair >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com > > >Hej, >I'll still write in english so everybody will understand. > >I asked on 99musik.se about repairing a this Silicon Mallet and a Roland >Octapad 2, and got a reply about some foil "pancakes" inside the Roland. > > >And if Wolfgang is right the Silicon Mallet seems to use the same kind of >pickups. > >I haven't paid anything yet. First I will make this thing work, then I think >I'll get a nice price. :) The owner doesn't use it anymore. Uppenbarligen. > >//Felix > >--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote: >> >> fexus.fexus skrev: >> > Hi, >> >> Hi (or Hej!) Felix and welcome to the list! >> >> > I'm about to buy a Simmons Silicon Mallet, but it needs some repair. > >> > Some pads do not send any signal, or the wrong signal (from another >> > pad), and some pads need to be hit very hard to send any signal. >> > I think this is a rare instrument and I'd really want to fix it. >> > >> > Does anybody know if this thing is repairable? Anybody in Stockholm who
> >> > can help me? >> >> I bet there are some owners on the list who can help with the trigger >> business but the Mallet is a temperamental unit. >> >> Is it piezo triggers or some other design in that one? Piezos are both > >> easy to change and quite cheap to replace. >> >> > Thanks for any help >> >> Can I ask how much you payed? Bought in Sweden? >> >> -- >> electronically yours, jesper >> >> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - >> www.electronic-obsession.se >> www.myspace.com/machinepop >> > >
2009-12-19 by Berk Aarts
Got this from Michael, hope this helps greets Berk Quote: > Yes, it is possible. First you have to check, whether there is a shortcut or > a break. You have to open the octave. 99% of all faults is the point, where > the foil with the printed metal is connected to the wires. You can't solder > that, but you can repair that with the laquer shown in the picture. I shoot > copper staples into the wood of the ZI pads, because I can solder wires to > them. From these I "paint" a connection to the coil, that's all. If the coil > has open spots due to corrosion, this paint will also help. > If the covering foil (carbon) is pressing all the time onto the coil, you > have a shortcut. Mostly it is only a small damaged spot, due to a heavy hit > of something like a stand or a knife. You can simply cut out that spot! The > pad will work again. > Michael