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Simmons SDS 6 gate question

Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-14 by vout@...

Hi,

I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right. 

My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 trigger in.

This generally worked quite well and even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.

Cheers, vout

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:
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> hello!  so i am trying to get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
> 
> i see that it expects 15 volts.  this is a lot...
> 
> but i am trying to lock it to a garfield electronics mini doc.  i figured this would do it.
> 
> thanks!
> 
> z
>  
> NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-14 by Nick Zampiello

awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.

I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it.  than it could be slaved to anything really.

z

  
 
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On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
 
  
Hi,

I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right. 

My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 trigger in.

This generally worked quite well and even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.

Cheers, vout

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> hello!  so i am trying to get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
> 
> i see that it expects 15 volts.  this is a lot...
> 
> but i am trying to lock it to a garfield electronics mini doc.  i figured this would do it.
> 
> thanks!
> 
> z
>  
> NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
> 
> --------------------------------------
> 
> 
> New Alliance East - Mastering
> 
> New Alliance East - Facebook
> 
> X :::: B :::: S
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-18 by Michael Buchner

Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the trick.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nick Zampiello 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question


    

  awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.


  I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it.  than it could be slaved to anything really.


  z


    

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  On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:

    
  Hi,

  I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right. 

  My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 trigger in.

  This generally worked quite well and even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.

  Cheers, vout

  --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:
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  >
  > hello!  so i am trying to get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
  > 
  > i see that it expects 15 volts.  this is a lot...
  > 
  > but i am trying to lock it to a garfield electronics mini doc.  i figured this would do it.
  > 
  > thanks!
  > 
  > z
  >  
  > NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
  > 
  > --------------------------------------
  > 
  > 
  > New Alliance East - Mastering
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  > New Alliance East - Facebook
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-18 by Nick Zampiello

ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do.  thanks!

z
 
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On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
 
  
 
Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the 
level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the 
trick.
 
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Nick Zampiello 
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22  AM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons  SDS 6 gate question
>
>  
>awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran  the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for  a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
>
>
>I  was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the  SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a  little before it.  than it could be slaved to anything  really.
>
>
>z
>
>
>  
> 
>NEW ALLIANCE  EAST!!!!
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>
>New Alliance East - Mastering
>
>
>New Alliance East - Facebook
>
>
>X :::: B :::: S
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM,  "vout@..." <vout@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  
>Hi,
>
>I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 
  (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even 
  though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and 
  trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than 
  just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with 
  cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right. 
>
>My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, 
  x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 
  trigger in.
>
>This generally worked quite well and 
  even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.
>
>Cheers, vout
>
>--- In 
  Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> 
  wrote:
>>
>> hello!  so i am trying to 
  get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>> 
>> i see that it expects 15 volts.  this 
  is a lot...
>> 
>> but i am trying to lock it 
  to a garfield electronics mini doc.  i figured this would do it.
>> 
>> thanks!
>> 
>> z
>>  
>> NEW ALLIANCE 
  EAST!!!!
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-20 by Nick Zampiello

so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going on...

i attached a picture of that section of board.  and the scheme.

there's no R20 and R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on my scheme.

maybe it's the one behind IC6?

thanks in advance

z
 
NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

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On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:
 
ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do.  thanks!

z
 
NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

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On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
 
  
 
Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the 
level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the 
trick.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Nick Zampiello 
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22  AM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons  SDS 6 gate question
>
>  
>awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran  the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for  a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
>
>
>I  was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the  SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a  little before it.  than it could be slaved to anything  really.
>
>
>z
>
>
>  
> 
>NEW ALLIANCE  EAST!!!!
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>
>New Alliance East - Mastering
>
>
>New Alliance East - Facebook
>
>
>X :::: B :::: S
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM,  "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
>
>  
>Hi,
>
>I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 
  (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even 
  though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and 
  trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than 
  just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with 
  cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right. 
>
>My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, 
  x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 
  trigger in.
>
>This generally worked quite well and 
  even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.
>
>Cheers, vout
>
>--- In 
  Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> 
  wrote:
>>
>> hello!  so i am trying to 
  get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>> 
>> i see that it expects 15 volts.  this 
  is a lot...
>> 
>> but i am trying to lock it 
  to a garfield electronics mini doc.  i figured this would do it.
>> 
>> thanks!
>> 
>> z
>>  
>> NEW ALLIANCE 
  EAST!!!!
>> 
>> 
  --------------------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> New Alliance East - Mastering
>> 
>> New Alliance East - Facebook
>> 
>> X :::: B :::: S
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-21 by Michael Buchner

Do you have the midi or non-midi version? The expansion boards are totally different. Check pin 2 of IC 6 and follow the track: R20 is located between Gate in and out jacks. R21 is near IC 6. One of the SDS6 here has R20 cut off and R21 lowered to 5K6. 
Works with any trigger.

Best 

Michael
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nick Zampiello 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com ; [AH] Analog Heaven ; Al Zampiello 
  Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question


    
  so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going on...

  i attached a picture of that section of board.  and the scheme.

  there's no R20 and R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on my scheme.

  maybe it's the one behind IC6?

  thanks in advance

  z
   
  NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

  --------------------------------------

  New Alliance East - Mastering

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  X :::: B :::: S

  On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@yahoo.com> wrote:

  ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do.  thanks!

  z
   
  NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

  --------------------------------------

  New Alliance East - Mastering

  New Alliance East - Facebook

  X :::: B :::: S

  On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:

    
   
  Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the 
  level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the 
  trick.
   
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >From: Nick Zampiello 
  >To: Simmons_Drums@...m 
  >Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
  >Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question
  >
  >  
  >awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
  >
  >
  >I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it.  than it could be slaved to anything really.
  >
  >
  >z
  >
  >
  >  
  > 
  >NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
  >
  >--------------------------------------
  >
  >
  >New Alliance East - Mastering
  >
  >
  >New Alliance East - Facebook
  >
  >
  >X :::: B :::: S
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
  >
  >  
  >Hi,
  >
  >I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 
  (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even 
  though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and 
  trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than 
  just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with 
  cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right. 
  >
  >My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, 
  x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 
  trigger in.
  >
  >This generally worked quite well and 
  even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.
  >
  >Cheers, vout
  >
  >--- In 
  Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> 
  wrote:
  >>
  >> hello!  so i am trying to 
  get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
  >> 
  >> i see that it expects 15 volts.  this 
  is a lot...
  >> 
  >> but i am trying to lock it 
  to a garfield electronics mini doc.  i figured this would do it.
  >> 
  >> thanks!
  >> 
  >> z
  >>  
  >> NEW ALLIANCE 
  EAST!!!!
  >> 
  >> 
  --------------------------------------
  >> 
  >> 
  >> New Alliance East - Mastering
  >> 
  >> New Alliance East - Facebook
  >> 
  >> X :::: B :::: S
  >>
  >
  >
  >
  >

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-21 by Nick Zampiello

no midi, i wish!

did you see thew attached pics?

thanks,.

z
 
NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------


New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook

X :::: B :::: S





On Monday, October 21, 2013 10:10 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
 
  
 
Do you have the midi or non-midi version? The 
expansion boards are totally different. Check pin 2 of IC 6 and follow the 
track: R20 is located between Gate in and out jacks. R21 is near IC 6. One of 
the SDS6 here has R20 cut off and R21 lowered to 5K6. 
Works with any trigger.
 
Best 
 
Michael
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----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Nick Zampiello 
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com ; [AH]  Analog Heaven ; Al Zampiello 
>Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:52  PM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons  SDS 6 gate question
>
>  
>so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going  on...
>
>i attached a picture of that section of board.  and the 
  scheme.
>
>there's no R20 and R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on 
  my scheme.
>
>maybe it's the one behind IC6?
>
>thanks in 
  advance
>
>z
> 
>NEW ALLIANCE 
  EAST!!!!
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>New Alliance 
  East - Mastering
>
>New Alliance East - Facebook
>
>X 
  :::: B :::: S
>
>On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello 
  <newallianceeast@...>  wrote:
>
>ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do. 
   thanks!
>
>z
> 
>NEW ALLIANCE 
  EAST!!!!
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>New Alliance 
  East - Mastering
>
>New Alliance East - Facebook
>
>X 
  :::: B :::: S
>
>On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner 
  <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
>
>  
> 
>Check R 
  21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the 
>level is set there. To rise R 20 
  value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the 
>trick.
> 
>----- 
  Original Message ----- 
>>From: Nick Zampiello 
>>To: 
  Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 
  AM
>>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate 
  question
>>
>>  
>>awesome thanks for the info. i was able 
  to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into 
  the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 
  input.
>>
>>
>>I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be 
  simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just 
  cranks the voltage / current a little before it.  than it could be slaved 
  to anything 
  really.
>>
>>
>>z
>>
>>
>>  
>> 
>>NEW 
  ALLIANCE 
  EAST!!!!
>>
>>--------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>New 
  Alliance East - Mastering
>>
>>
>>New Alliance 
  East - Facebook
>>
>>
>>X :::: B :::: 
  S
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Monday, 
  October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> 
  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>Hi,
>>
>>I was able to sync the 
  SDS6 to a TR606 
>(tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to 
  drive the SDS6 even 
>though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 
  sync inputs (tape and 
>trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of 
  current drive rather than 
>just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me 
  of 80's computers with 
>cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get 
  the level just right. 
>>
>>My sync chain was DAW midi out -> 
  x0xb0x midi in, 
>x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom 
  trigger out -> SDS6 
>trigger in.
>>
>>This generally worked 
  quite well and 
>even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x 
  swing function.
>>
>>Cheers, vout
>>
>>--- In 
>Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> 
>wrote:
>>>
>>> hello!  so i am trying to 
>get a 
  simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>>> 
>>> i see that it expects 15 volts.  this 
>is a 
  lot...
>>> 
>>> but i am trying to lock it 
>to a garfield 
  electronics mini doc.  i figured this would do it.
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> 
>>> z
>>>  
>>> 
  NEW ALLIANCE 
>EAST!!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>--------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> New Alliance East - Mastering
>>> 
>>> New 
  Alliance East - Facebook
>>> 
>>> X :::: B :::: 
  S
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-22 by jesper

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Nick Zampiello skrev 2013-10-21 18:03:
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> no midi, i wish!
>
> did you see thew attached pics?
>
> thanks,.
>
> z
> NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-22 by Michael Buchner

I cannot get the pics via the groups page. Send them to my email: buchnerelectronics@...

Michael
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nick Zampiello 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question


    

  no midi, i wish!


  did you see thew attached pics?


  thanks,.


  z

  NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

  --------------------------------------


  New Alliance East - Mastering


  New Alliance East - Facebook


  X :::: B :::: S







  On Monday, October 21, 2013 10:10 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:

    
   
  Do you have the midi or non-midi version? The expansion boards are totally different. Check pin 2 of IC 6 and follow the track: R20 is located between Gate in and out jacks. R21 is near IC 6. One of the SDS6 here has R20 cut off and R21 lowered to 5K6. 
  Works with any trigger.

  Best 

  Michael



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Nick Zampiello 
    To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com ; [AH] Analog Heaven ; Al Zampiello 
    Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:52 PM
    Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question


      
    so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going on...

    i attached a picture of that section of board.  and the scheme.

    there's no R20 and R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on my scheme.

    maybe it's the one behind IC6?

    thanks in advance

    z
     
    NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

    --------------------------------------

    New Alliance East - Mastering

    New Alliance East - Facebook

    X :::: B :::: S

    On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:

    ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do.  thanks!

    z
     
    NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

    --------------------------------------

    New Alliance East - Mastering

    New Alliance East - Facebook

    X :::: B :::: S

    On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@t-online.de> wrote:

      
     
    Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the 
    level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the 
    trick.
     
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    >From: Nick Zampiello 
    >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
    >Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
    >Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question
    >
    >  
    >awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
    >
    >
    >I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it.  than it could be slaved to anything really.
    >
    >
    >z
    >
    >
    >  
    > 
    >NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
    >
    >--------------------------------------
    >
    >
    >New Alliance East - Mastering
    >
    >
    >New Alliance East - Facebook
    >
    >
    >X :::: B :::: S
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@hotmail.com" <vout@...> wrote:
    >
    >  
    >Hi,
    >
    >I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 
    (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even 
    though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and 
    trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than 
    just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with 
    cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right. 
    >
    >My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, 
    x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 
    trigger in.
    >
    >This generally worked quite well and 
    even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.
    >
    >Cheers, vout
    >
    >--- In 
    Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> 
    wrote:
    >>
    >> hello!  so i am trying to 
    get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
    >> 
    >> i see that it expects 15 volts.  this 
    is a lot...
    >> 
    >> but i am trying to lock it 
    to a garfield electronics mini doc.  i figured this would do it.
    >> 
    >> thanks!
    >> 
    >> z
    >>  
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-22 by Nick Zampiello

i put the pics in the yahoo simmons group files section


http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/NJpmUh__aw_5la30zTJoZC_aozf_D_hzrMAPunV1UVLF5-XwHah5IF2srAc_OSHHHjPaWb79Kf16g-aToTE0_CsUdxvwfLU9OJSw/SDS6%20Gate%20input%20pic.JPG


http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/NJpmUq1ph6L5la300_5w5H9eriXy_arG0vaqmY758M5wZknNORB9Xc0WSQkrRCW0gnKpl_YxqKWe84kRBB15kiC_r9pRp1hEMqHA/SDS%206%20scheme.JPG


z


 
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On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:29 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
 
  
 
I cannot get the pics via the groups page. Send 
them to my email: buchnerelectronics@t-online.de
 
Michael
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Nick Zampiello 
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:03  PM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons  SDS 6 gate question
>
>  
>no midi, i wish!
>
>
>did  you see thew attached pics?
>
>
>thanks,.
>
>
>z
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>On Monday, October 21, 2013 10:10 AM,  Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...>  wrote:
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> 
>Do you have the midi or non-midi version? The  expansion boards are totally different. Check pin 2 of IC 6 and follow the  track: R20 is located between Gate in and out jacks. R21 is near IC 6. One of  the SDS6 here has R20 cut off and R21 lowered to 5K6. 
>Works with any trigger.
> 
>Best 
> 
>Michael
> 
> 
> 
>-----  Original Message ----- 
>>From: Nick Zampiello 
>>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com ; [AH] Analog Heaven ; Al  Zampiello 
>>Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:52 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question
>>
>>  
>>so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going  on...
>>
>>i attached a picture of that section of 
    board.  and the scheme.
>>
>>there's no R20 and 
    R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on my scheme.
>>
>>maybe it's the one behind IC6?
>>
>>thanks in advance
>>
>>z
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>>On Friday, October 
    18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...>  wrote:
>>
>>ok cool, i was unclear as to what 
    changing these would do.  thanks!
>>
>>z
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>>On Friday, October 
    18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> 
    wrote:
>>
>>  
>> 
>>Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the 
>>level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it 
    away should do the 
>>trick.
>> 
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: Nick 
    Zampiello 
>>>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate 
    question
>>>
>>>  
>>>awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if 
    i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 
    2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
>>>
>>>
>>>I was looking at the scheme and it 
    wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little 
    box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it.  than it 
    could be slaved to anything really.
>>>
>>>
>>>z
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> 
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    ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
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>>>On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, 
    "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 
>>(tom) 
    trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even 
>>though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs 
    (tape and 
>>trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of 
    current drive rather than 
>>just a certain voltage level. 
    Always reminded me of 80's computers with 
>>cassette loading 
    where you spent ages trying to get the level just right. 
>>>
>>>My sync chain was DAW midi out -> 
    x0xb0x midi in, 
>>x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, 
    TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 
>>trigger in.
>>>
>>>This generally worked quite well and 
>>even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing 
    function.
>>>
>>>Cheers, vout
>>>
>>>--- In 
>>Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello 
    <newallianceeast@...> 
>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hello!  so i am trying to 
>>get a 
    simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>>>> 
>>>> i see that it expects 15 volts. 
     this 
>>is a lot...
>>>> 
>>>> but i am trying to lock it 
>>to a garfield 
    electronics mini doc.  i figured this would do it.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> z
>>>>  
>>>> NEW ALLIANCE 
>>EAST!!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>--------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> New Alliance East - 
    Mastering
>>>> 
>>>> New Alliance 
    East - Facebook
>>>> 
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