My reference is the Spectralab software which calulates it from the FFT. About.com defines signal to noise ratio this way: http://stereos.about.com/cs/glossaryandtools/g/sn_ratio.htm --- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, "Scott E." <yahudinyhwh@s...> wrote: > Grant, > > I would respectfully disagree with your definition of signal to noise > ratio. The inclusion of the second order harmonic is only appropriate > for determining the THD of the circuit when a signal is applied, whether > that be steady state or transient. The definition of signal to noise is > the ratio between the power of of the signal at a certain point in the > circuit to the power of the noise floor (only) which would exist there > if the signal were removed. This by definition would exclude any > harmonic distortion created by the circuit with respect to the input signal. > > Regards, Scott E, > ================================================== = > grantrichter2001 wrote: > > > > > > Quality? Let's look at signal-to-noise. According to the > > Synthsizers.com > > > FAQ, the dotcom VCA has "a signal to noise ratio of 82db (CD > > quality is > > > around 96db)." The MOTM-190 has a dynamic range of "better > > than 100dB." > > > That's a very big difference. > > > > It might be useful to note that signal to noise ratio is different > > than the noise floor. The noise floor is the actual hiss (thermal > > noise). > > > > Signal to noise ratio is the ratio between the test sine signal > > peak and the next lowest signal peak. This is usually the second > > harmonic distortion. A second harmonic distortion of -82 dB is > > approx. a THD of 0.005% or as good as virtually all audiophile > > hi-fi gear. > > > > Analog to digital converters have a noise floor fixed by the math > > of 6 dB per bit (hence 96 dB for 16 bit). > > > > Based on my measurements at Wiard, the noise floor of a TL074 > > is about equal to the self noise of a 24 bit converter. An LM837 is > > about -15 dB below the same 24 bit converter. But the signal to > > noise ratio is -60 dB or so because the THD is 0.02% (second > > harmonic at -60 dB). This is plenty good enough for prime time! > > > > The major source of hiss noise will come from the A to D inputs > > of the digital compositing system you use, rather than the analog > > equipment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the primary Web site at: > > http://www.SynthModules.com > > > > > > > > *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SynthModules/ > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > SynthModules-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:SynthModules-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject =Unsubscribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > >
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Re: MOTM or Synthesizers.com ???
2005-01-21 by grantrichter2001
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