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Re: [The_Cyndustries_List] Differences between the Formats

2006-01-05 by Ingo Zobel

hello cynthia,

thanks for these info's :-)

best wishes

ingo



--- Cynthia Webster <cynthia.webster@gte.net> schrieb:

> Ingo Zobel wrote:
> 
> >
> > hello cynthia,
> >
> > just a short thing which caught my attention.
> > when looking at the eurorack format, i count 20 jacks.
> > on all the other formats there are 22 jacks.
> > the preliminary manual says that there are two
> > dynamic fm inputs, but the eurorack panel only has one.
> > also the manual says that there are a few differences
> > between the formats, things like ac/dc coupling and so on.
> > please, can you explain? i'm asking because i'm still not
> > sure which format to buy, eurorack or fracrack.
> >
> > many thanks :-)
> >
> > best wishes
> >
> > ingo
> 
> Hi Ingo!
> 
> Thanks for noticing that difference; yours is an excellent question!
> 
> The Euro Rack Zeroscillators have two jacks less than the others.
> There are actually several differences between the Euro and
> Blacet or FracRac versions...
> 
> The FracRac versions are more compact, thus you can fit slightly more
> of them into any given cabinet.
> 
> The width of the Euro Rack is 36HP or roughly 7.20 inches wide,
> while the width of the FracRac Zo is 6.0 inches wide.
> 
> The Euro Zo runs on +/-12 Volts,
> while the FracRac runs on +/-15 Volts, thus you may experience ever
> slightly more extreme modulation possibilities using the FracRac
> Version? 
> It's kind of theoretical at the moment, but it is comparing a
> 24volt rail-to-rail system against a 30volt rail-to-rail system
> afterall.
> 
> (OK,  some people "think" that yellow hook-up wire sounds better!)
> 
> The Euro format Zo has only a single one-volt-to-the-octave input
> jack
> compared to the others.  The absence of the extra jack is no hardship
> as the second jack is mainly gravy.  On all other versions the two
> jacks
> are not multed or "Y"ed together, for the correct impedances, they
> have their own respective precision input resistors which are
> hand-matched
> pairs so you may use either or both with 1V/Octave inputs such as a
> sequencer and a keyboard.  (The Euro will accept either, but not both
> without combining them elsewhere in your system; not a big deal).
> 
> The other difference is that there is only one Dynamic Linear FM
> Input
> on the Euro format Zeroscillator.  The others have two jacks instead
> of
> just the one, and the difference is that as an afterthought we
> decided to
> add a 10 microfarad non-polarized capacitor to the second inputs to
> block
> DC voltages.  This is known as "AC Coupling", (without the capacitor
> it is called "DC Coupling").  This is why there are two different
> color
> banana jacks on the lower left of the Modcan version, the white input
> is DC coupled and allows full AC and DC inputs, while the gray input
> is AC coupled because it has the magic capacitor and blocks any DC
> from getting in.  What is the difference?  AC = audio signals and
> DC = control voltage sgnals.  The Euro supports either type of
> inputs,
> so one is not really "loosing" anything.
> 
> Adding the above capacitor to the middle of a patch cord would give
> you the ability to block DC inputs on ~any~ module in your system if
> desired.  This is true of any modular synthesizer.
> 
> So the differences are not any big deal really, which is why we
> didn't
> make a big deal out of them.  The Euro Zeroscillator format simply
> looked cleaner without them... Ah, what price for beauty!
> 
> 
> Cynthia
> 
> http://www.cyndustries.com/
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> >
> > --- Cynthia Webster <cynthia.webster@gte.net> schrieb:
> >
> > > Les Mizzell wrote:
> > >
> > > > David Bartz wrote:
> > > > > OUCH!  The nuns just slapped my wrist with that friggin'
> ruler
> > > again.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You know Sister Helga too?
> > >
> > >
> > > Good thing you never met Sister Helga one!
> > >
> > > (Sorry, couldn't resist).
> > >
> > > Thank You David!
> > >
> > > Seriously, we shipped more Modcan format Zeroscillators today
> along
> > > with
> > > some other orders.
> > >
> > > We should be getting a large batch of the two MOTM specific
> circuit
> > > boards within the next two-weeks.
> > > Stuffing those is a breeze compared to the other four circuit
> boards
> > > that are universal to all of the
> > > module formats, (thankfully we have lots of those built already).
> > >
> > > All of the other formats are coming along nicely, we're making
> last
> > > minute tweeks to the circuit boards.
> > > As long as the DotCom Format front panels arrive in time, then we
> > > should
> > > be shipping all formats of
> > > Zeroscillators this month!
> > >
> > > A note on the DotComs, is that we discovered that the cards on
> the
> > > backplane are a fraction of
> > > an inch too long to fit into the Synthesizer.com portable
> cabinets,
> > > this
> > > neccessitated the creation of
> > > a new little right-angle circuit board adapter so that the cards
> will
> > >
> > > now fit by standing-up vertically instead.
> > >
> > > The threaded bushings on the Euro Rack and FracRac versions
> looked
> > > great
> > > head-on, but in
> > > profile we found that they protruded too far out from the front
> panel
> > >
> > > and interfered with the handspace
> > > around the tuning knob, which I'm trying to keep clear.  Over the
> > > holidays we ordered
> > > and auditioned every mini toggle switch we could find, and now
> have a
> > >
> > > lovely solution, but the new
> > > switches have an odd little circuit board mounting bracket that
> > > required
> > > a new footprint pattern on
> > > the circuit boards, so those updates are now done.
> > >
> > > We just did a lot of fine tuning like this on all of the formats
> > > during
> > > the holidays and they're all
> > > starting to ship in whatever order the final parts arrive.
> > >
> > > Best Wishes!
> > >
> > >
> > > Cynthia
> > >
> > > http://www.cyndustries.com/
> > >
> > > New Devo Synapse Electronic Music Magazine Issue Posted!
> > >
> > >
> > >
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