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MOTM ZO first report

MOTM ZO first report

2006-02-03 by mate_stubb

Howdy all,

I received my MOTM ZO a couple days ago and am reporting in with my
initial impressions.

Appearance/build: 
This thing is big and beautiful. It is a perfect cosmetic match for
the factory MOTM modules (something not always achieved by others -
for example, the Encore Freq Shifter). The sandwiched system of 3 main
boards and multiple panel control boards is elegant and completely
eliminates hookup wire for the panel controls. This is an interesting
solution to the problem of offering multiple formats at a relatively
low volume.

The jacks are switchcraft, but not the 112As that MOTM users are used
to. They look much the same, but have different lugs to mount to the
PCB. They have a heavier engagement feel than the 112As. The pots are
smooth feeling with a slightly more damped feel than standard bourns
pots. The multiturn tuning control is smooth and light feeling. You
can spin it around with a single finger. I found precise tuning to be
easy and quick.

Features/functionality:
Well, it's simply the most full-featured VCO I've ever seen! Linear
through zero FM with built in VCA, 5 basic output waveforms, 4 aux
outputs in quadrature with wave shapers, etc. Everything works as
advertised. The only tiny complaint I have is that the waveform
morphing doesn't match the pot positions with the panel graphics. Just
use your ears and you'll find where it hits the sine wave sweet spot. 

The variable strength sync works very well, and allows you to achieve
effects from stepping harmonics to a severe "tearing" from one
harmonic to the next, to an even more severe octave jump effect I had
never heard before. Very musical.

Having a built in VCA to control the FM modulation amount is very
handy. It makes it easy to achieve enveloped modulations for struck
metallic sounds using only an external EG.

I've had great fun using it as a LFO with the quadrature outputs
driving 4 separate VCOs. Using rectified square waveforms I can get
swooping trills in 4 part harmony, very cool!

Sound:
The basic sound is very clear and pure. I put a scope on all the basic
output waveforms, and they are pristine. This module has that
characteristic very pure sine wave output that you cannot get with a
sawtooth core VCO. This of course is the perfect starting point for
linear FM. Until now, the only way I could get that sound is by using
an oscillating VCF, which typically doesn't track the keyboard as well
as a real VCO.

I'm still exploring the huge palette available for FM. It's going to
take a lot of playing to get my head around all the modulation
capabilities of this oscillator. Suffice it to say that the pure
inherent waveforms coupled with the extreme amount of modulation
possible make this sound different and more radical than anything else
in my system.

Major kudos to Cynthia and crew for taking the gamble and succeeding
in bringing a premium module like this to synth lovers everywhere!

Moe
http://www.stoogeindustries.com

Re: MOTM ZO first report

2006-02-03 by Mike Marsh

Nice summary, Moe.  It squares with what I have experienced.

The issue of morphing not quite matching the panel graphics I will
explore a little tonight with the scope.  FM will tend to exaggerate
the response of these outputs, to my understanding, so I'll try with
and without.  The quad stuff is silly fun in LFO mode with FM by the
way...

Mike

--- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "mate_stubb"
<mate_stubb@...> wrote:
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>
> Howdy all,
> 
> I received my MOTM ZO a couple days ago and am reporting in with my
> initial impressions.
> 
> Appearance/build: 
> This thing is big and beautiful. It is a perfect cosmetic match for
> the factory MOTM modules (something not always achieved by others -
> for example, the Encore Freq Shifter). The sandwiched system of 3 main
> boards and multiple panel control boards is elegant and completely
> eliminates hookup wire for the panel controls. This is an interesting
> solution to the problem of offering multiple formats at a relatively
> low volume.
> 
> The jacks are switchcraft, but not the 112As that MOTM users are used
> to. They look much the same, but have different lugs to mount to the
> PCB. They have a heavier engagement feel than the 112As. The pots are
> smooth feeling with a slightly more damped feel than standard bourns
> pots. The multiturn tuning control is smooth and light feeling. You
> can spin it around with a single finger. I found precise tuning to be
> easy and quick.
> 
> Features/functionality:
> Well, it's simply the most full-featured VCO I've ever seen! Linear
> through zero FM with built in VCA, 5 basic output waveforms, 4 aux
> outputs in quadrature with wave shapers, etc. Everything works as
> advertised. The only tiny complaint I have is that the waveform
> morphing doesn't match the pot positions with the panel graphics. Just
> use your ears and you'll find where it hits the sine wave sweet spot. 
> 
> The variable strength sync works very well, and allows you to achieve
> effects from stepping harmonics to a severe "tearing" from one
> harmonic to the next, to an even more severe octave jump effect I had
> never heard before. Very musical.
> 
> Having a built in VCA to control the FM modulation amount is very
> handy. It makes it easy to achieve enveloped modulations for struck
> metallic sounds using only an external EG.
> 
> I've had great fun using it as a LFO with the quadrature outputs
> driving 4 separate VCOs. Using rectified square waveforms I can get
> swooping trills in 4 part harmony, very cool!
> 
> Sound:
> The basic sound is very clear and pure. I put a scope on all the basic
> output waveforms, and they are pristine. This module has that
> characteristic very pure sine wave output that you cannot get with a
> sawtooth core VCO. This of course is the perfect starting point for
> linear FM. Until now, the only way I could get that sound is by using
> an oscillating VCF, which typically doesn't track the keyboard as well
> as a real VCO.
> 
> I'm still exploring the huge palette available for FM. It's going to
> take a lot of playing to get my head around all the modulation
> capabilities of this oscillator. Suffice it to say that the pure
> inherent waveforms coupled with the extreme amount of modulation
> possible make this sound different and more radical than anything else
> in my system.
> 
> Major kudos to Cynthia and crew for taking the gamble and succeeding
> in bringing a premium module like this to synth lovers everywhere!
> 
> Moe
> http://www.stoogeindustries.com
>

Re: MOTM ZO first report

2006-02-03 by tuninghead

Hello Fellow Synthesists,

Hey Moe, thanks for the great first impressions review.  I can see you
had no trouble getting great FM from the Zeroscillator.  Uploads??

Because you brought it up, I just want to comment about the location
of the sine waveform on the morph knob.  In the continuum of sounds
that the morph produces, the sine wave shows up close to the triangle.
 The reason for this is simple -- they are very closely related
harmonically.  If the sine wave were to show up in the middle of the
range, then half the range would sound like not much is happening and
the second half would get all the business.  Not very continuous
sounding, especially under voltage control.  Also, if you are using
voltage control, the marking becomes less meaningful anyway.

The reason the sine wave is printed on the panel in the middle of the
range is also simple -- the panel was designed before Cynthia ever
heard the Zeroscillator play!  We were all working in parallel at
triple warp speed to bring this module to you.  As for whether the
marking will change on future modules, I don't know.  Cynthia likes
the way it looks right now, so I doubt it.  But think of it this way,
if we do change it, yours will be worth more.

Happy FM'ing,
--Mark Barton
  





--- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "mate_stubb"
<mate_stubb@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Howdy all,
> 
> I received my MOTM ZO a couple days ago and am reporting in with my
> initial impressions.
> 
> Appearance/build: 
> This thing is big and beautiful. It is a perfect cosmetic match for
> the factory MOTM modules (something not always achieved by others -
> for example, the Encore Freq Shifter). The sandwiched system of 3 main
> boards and multiple panel control boards is elegant and completely
> eliminates hookup wire for the panel controls. This is an interesting
> solution to the problem of offering multiple formats at a relatively
> low volume.
> 
> The jacks are switchcraft, but not the 112As that MOTM users are used
> to. They look much the same, but have different lugs to mount to the
> PCB. They have a heavier engagement feel than the 112As. The pots are
> smooth feeling with a slightly more damped feel than standard bourns
> pots. The multiturn tuning control is smooth and light feeling. You
> can spin it around with a single finger. I found precise tuning to be
> easy and quick.
> 
> Features/functionality:
> Well, it's simply the most full-featured VCO I've ever seen! Linear
> through zero FM with built in VCA, 5 basic output waveforms, 4 aux
> outputs in quadrature with wave shapers, etc. Everything works as
> advertised. The only tiny complaint I have is that the waveform
> morphing doesn't match the pot positions with the panel graphics. Just
> use your ears and you'll find where it hits the sine wave sweet spot. 
> 
> The variable strength sync works very well, and allows you to achieve
> effects from stepping harmonics to a severe "tearing" from one
> harmonic to the next, to an even more severe octave jump effect I had
> never heard before. Very musical.
> 
> Having a built in VCA to control the FM modulation amount is very
> handy. It makes it easy to achieve enveloped modulations for struck
> metallic sounds using only an external EG.
> 
> I've had great fun using it as a LFO with the quadrature outputs
> driving 4 separate VCOs. Using rectified square waveforms I can get
> swooping trills in 4 part harmony, very cool!
> 
> Sound:
> The basic sound is very clear and pure. I put a scope on all the basic
> output waveforms, and they are pristine. This module has that
> characteristic very pure sine wave output that you cannot get with a
> sawtooth core VCO. This of course is the perfect starting point for
> linear FM. Until now, the only way I could get that sound is by using
> an oscillating VCF, which typically doesn't track the keyboard as well
> as a real VCO.
> 
> I'm still exploring the huge palette available for FM. It's going to
> take a lot of playing to get my head around all the modulation
> capabilities of this oscillator. Suffice it to say that the pure
> inherent waveforms coupled with the extreme amount of modulation
> possible make this sound different and more radical than anything else
> in my system.
> 
> Major kudos to Cynthia and crew for taking the gamble and succeeding
> in bringing a premium module like this to synth lovers everywhere!
> 
> Moe
> http://www.stoogeindustries.com
>

Re: MOTM ZO first report

2006-02-03 by mate_stubb

> If the sine wave were to show up in the middle of the
> range, then half the range would sound like not much is happening 
> and the second half would get all the business.  Not very continuous
> sounding, especially under voltage control.  Also, if you are using
> voltage control, the marking becomes less meaningful anyway.

Good point, and as a practical matter I didn't find it to be an issue.

I'll try to get some files uploaded soon highlighting some of the
range of sounds.

Compliments on the design, Mark. What else have you got up your sleeve?

Moe

Re: MOTM ZO first report

2006-02-04 by tontaub

Hi Moe,
speaking of FM etc.:
Does it make sense to run single ZO to achive the traditional lin-FM
sounds?
Or would it be better to have two or more in the system?
Just asking for "future planning"  ;-)

  :-) Michael. 


--- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "mate_stubb" wrote:
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> Sound:
> The basic sound is very clear and pure. I put a scope on all the basic
> output waveforms, and they are pristine. This module has that
> characteristic very pure sine wave output that you cannot get with a
> sawtooth core VCO. This of course is the perfect starting point for
> linear FM. Until now, the only way I could get that sound is by using
> an oscillating VCF, which typically doesn't track the keyboard as well
> as a real VCO.
> 
> I'm still exploring the huge palette available for FM. It's going to
> take a lot of playing to get my head around all the modulation
> capabilities of this oscillator. Suffice it to say that the pure
> inherent waveforms coupled with the extreme amount of modulation
> possible make this sound different and more radical than anything else
> in my system.

Re: MOTM ZO first report

2006-02-04 by mate_stubb

Sure, it makes sense to have a single ZO. With just one you can
achieve traditional lin FM OR more extreme thru zero FM. You can use
another VCO or an oscillating filter as the modulator.

With two or more ZOs, you could do cross modulated thru zero FM, or
start replicating DX-7ish parallel and serial patch algorithms.

Moe

--- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "tontaub" <egroups@...>
wrote:
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>
> Hi Moe,
> speaking of FM etc.:
> Does it make sense to run single ZO to achive the traditional lin-FM
> sounds?
> Or would it be better to have two or more in the system?
> Just asking for "future planning"  ;-)
> 
>   :-) Michael.

Re: [The_Cyndustries_List] Re: MOTM ZO first report

2006-02-04 by Mark Barton

mate_stubb wrote:

>>If the sine wave were to show up in the middle of the
>>range, then half the range would sound like not much is happening 
>>and the second half would get all the business.  Not very continuous
>>sounding, especially under voltage control.  Also, if you are using
>>voltage control, the marking becomes less meaningful anyway.
>>    
>>
>
>Good point, and as a practical matter I didn't find it to be an issue.
>
>I'll try to get some files uploaded soon highlighting some of the
>range of sounds.
>
>Compliments on the design, Mark. What else have you got up your sleeve?
>
>Moe
>  
>

      Hair.

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