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Akai S1100 EX

Akai S1100 EX

2012-02-17 by jo.menendez

Hello everybody
   I bought an S1100 EX and i just can't figure out how to make it work, if i connect a midi cable to the EX i can get sound from it (like a sine wave) but when connected  to the S1100 sampler is like nothing happens, there isn't any indication in the sampler that the expander is connected, when booting up i can't see the memory from the expander in the sampler, i don't know what i'm doing wrong, i haven't been able to find the manual for the S1100EX, i thought that by connecting the 2 units with the scsi cable i would link the 2 units but that isn't happening, the sampler has the 4.3 OS  and the expander has the 1.39 chips installed, could anybody please help me out with this ? i would appreciate any help. Thank you

Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Akai S1100 EX

2012-02-17 by Les Lambert

I had the same experience, but you need the paperwork to understand what's going on.
I couldn't find an electronic copy, but had a printed one under a pile of old magazines.

I don't have the two units now or the documentation, but from memory, there was some issue with making sure the SCSI ID was different on the EX, of course, then you could access the EX and there was a reverse video effect that indicated that you had access,and which machine's RAM you were dealing with.
I can't be any clearer, maybe someone else could be more useful

It wasn't very intuitive and even when it worked I had feelings of uncertainty, so gave up quite quickly and bought something else.
Not my normal result, don't feel you should find it easy either.

Too many Akai's spoil the broth.
A Rolling Stone gathers no MOSS. etc etc




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 From: jo.menendez <jo.menendez@...>
To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 22:04
Subject: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Akai S1100 EX
 

  
Hello everybody
I bought an S1100 EX and i just can't figure out how to make it work, if i connect a midi cable to the EX i can get sound from it (like a sine wave) but when connected  to the S1100 sampler is like nothing happens, there isn't any indication in the sampler that the expander is connected, when booting up i can't see the memory from the expander in the sampler, i don't know what i'm doing wrong, i haven't been able to find the manual for the S1100EX, i thought that by connecting the 2 units with the scsi cable i would link the 2 units but that isn't happening, the sampler has the 4.3 OS  and the expander has the 1.39 chips installed, could anybody please help me out with this ? i would appreciate any help. Thank you

Akai S1100 EX

2012-02-26 by jo.menendez

Hello
  I'm having problems with the expander, would anybody happen to have a copy of  the manual for the s1100ex? Thank you

Re: Akai S1100 EX

2012-03-03 by K

Do you remember if there was a button combination to enter ex mode on the 1100, I've tried every combination of SCSI ids on both units to no avail.



--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les Lambert <les_lmbrt@...> wrote:
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>
> I had the same experience, but you need the paperwork to understand what's going on.
> I couldn't find an electronic copy, but had a printed one under a pile of old magazines.
> 
> I don't have the two units now or the documentation, but from memory, there was some issue with making sure the SCSI ID was different on the EX, of course, then you could access the EX and there was a reverse video effect that indicated that you had access,and which machine's RAM you were dealing with.
> I can't be any clearer, maybe someone else could be more useful
> 
> It wasn't very intuitive and even when it worked I had feelings of uncertainty, so gave up quite quickly and bought something else.
> Not my normal result, don't feel you should find it easy either.
> 
> Too many Akai's spoil the broth.
> A Rolling Stone gathers no MOSS. etc etc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: jo.menendez <jo.menendez@...>
> To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 22:04
> Subject: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Akai S1100 EX
>  
> 
> Â  
> Hello everybody
> I bought an S1100 EX and i just can't figure out how to make it work, if i connect a midi cable to the EX i can get sound from it (like a sine wave) but when connected  to the S1100 sampler is like nothing happens, there isn't any indication in the sampler that the expander is connected, when booting up i can't see the memory from the expander in the sampler, i don't know what i'm doing wrong, i haven't been able to find the manual for the S1100EX, i thought that by connecting the 2 units with the scsi cable i would link the 2 units but that isn't happening, the sampler has the 4.3 OS  and the expander has the 1.39 chips installed, could anybody please help me out with this ? i would appreciate any help. Thank you
>

Re: Akai S1100 EX

2012-03-03 by Les Lambert

You seem to be in luck, my hard drive archive is still alive and didn't give me no jive....
It's not the manual but a reviewer's paraphrasing of the instructions, the slightly jocular tone isn't mine, apart from the above line.
Well used dishwater? times must have been hard back then.
This is section 4, the others may be useful too, but it's all a bit banter-ridden, see how you do with this first


Since there are no buttons on the S1100 marked ‘S1100EX’ there must be a clever way of 
telling the linked system what you want to do. 
There is. Press the Mark key and hold it for just over a second. 
A SCSI status line appears on the bottom of the display which you can mostly ignore after 
the initial setting up. 
While holding the Mark key press the Ent/Play key and this will select a mode in which the 
S1100 is operating on its own. 
This isn’t what you paid all your money for so let’s load the S1100 up with some sounds as 
quickly as possible and move on. 
After you have filled your S1100 with 2 Meg, 10 Meg or 32 Meg of sounds, according to its 
capabilities, hold down the Mark key again until the status line appears and press the +/< 
key. 
The LCD screen will go into ‘reverse video’ and the parts that were grey before will turn 
blue and the parts that were blue will turn grey (actually a shade more reminiscent of well 
used dishwater). 
This tells you without any shadow of doubt that you are now operating the S1100EX. Every 
command you enter now will be piped straight down the SCSI cable to the S1100EX, as will 
the sample data you enter from floppy disk, hard disk or CD ROM. 
The beauty of the system is that apart from one key combination to set the S1100EX into 
Multitimbral mode, and two more to swap between the two units, there is nothing else you 
have to learn. You have saved a considerable sum of money and operation is as easy as 
before. In fact, the best way to think of this mode is as two S1100s. Keep that in mind and 
you can’t go wrong.



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 From: K <kmeksz@yahoo.com>
To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, 3 March 2012, 15:25
Subject: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Re: Akai S1100 EX
 

  
Do you remember if there was a button combination to enter ex mode on the 1100, I've tried every combination of SCSI ids on both units to no avail.

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les Lambert <les_lmbrt@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I had the same experience, but you need the paperwork to understand what's going on.
> I couldn't find an electronic copy, but had a printed one under a pile of old magazines.
> 
> I don't have the two units now or the documentation, but from memory, there was some issue with making sure the SCSI ID was different on the EX, of course, then you could access the EX and there was a reverse video effect that indicated that you had access,and which machine's RAM you were dealing with.
> I can't be any clearer, maybe someone else could be more useful
> 
> It wasn't very intuitive and even when it worked I had feelings of uncertainty, so gave up quite quickly and bought something else.
> Not my normal result, don't feel you should find it easy either.
> 
> Too many Akai's spoil the broth.
> A Rolling Stone gathers no MOSS. etc etc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: jo.menendez <jo.menendez@...>
> To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@...m 
> Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 22:04
> Subject: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Akai S1100 EX
> 
> 
> Â  
> Hello everybody
> I bought an S1100 EX and i just can't figure out how to make it work, if i connect a midi cable to the EX i can get sound from it (like a sine wave) but when connected  to the S1100 sampler is like nothing happens, there isn't any indication in the sampler that the expander is connected, when booting up i can't see the memory from the expander in the sampler, i don't know what i'm doing wrong, i haven't been able to find the manual for the S1100EX, i thought that by connecting the 2 units with the scsi cable i would link the 2 units but that isn't happening, the sampler has the 4.3 OS  and the expander has the 1.39 chips installed, could anybody please help me out with this ? i would appreciate any help. Thank you
>

Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Re: Akai S1100 EX

2012-03-03 by Les Lambert

I got through the other bits of this DLo and have joined a few bits more together, and there are EPROM images of V4.3 and the related one for the EX. They might me from the files section here, I often save things like that in case the site disappears. Now read on.......................

Mode 2

If anything, Mode 2, or ‘Voice Expansion’ mode, is even easier than Mode 1. This mode is for when you need to have thirty-two simultaneous voices on the go, or sixteen in stereo. This is usually the case when you are playing sampled piano. Without sufficient voices, the sustain pedal is very difficult to use without note-stealing becoming obvious. Switching into Mode 2 is as easy as switching into Mode 1. When you load some samples in from floppy disk, the S1100EX will load first, and the display will invert to tell you what’s going on, and then the S1100 will load the same sample data. When this is done, you basically have a thirty-two voice S1100 at your disposal. All editing procedures will be exactly the same as if you only had an S1100, and when you save data to disk only one set has to be saved because the data is the same in both units.
Advanced Options

Keep in mind that the S1100EX adds a whole new S1100 to your rack and you’ll appreciate that feats like having two different digital effects running at the same time are quite logical. But you may wonder about a couple of other matters, so let me clarify...

Are you a Cue List user on the S1100? The Cue List allows samples to be entered against SMPTE timecode so that they can be played back in sync with a video without having to use an external sequencer or synchroniser of any kind. The S1100 can do this too, but the IB-108 SMPTE reader/generator card isn’t supplied as standard, as it is with the S1100.

As I said earlier, further S1100EXs can be added to the SCSI chain, but you only benefit from the added multitimbrality that Mode 1 offers.
Although your first S1100EX will add an extra sixteen voices in Mode 2, this doesn’t unfortunately mean that another one would add sixteen more.
The first sixteen notes would be played on the S1100 and the next sixteen on all subsequent S1100EXs.

An interesting trick that the S1100EX’s manual notes is digital mixing for resampling. This isn’t specifically an S1100EX feature since you could do it with an S1100 and a DAT machine, but it’s interesting nonetheless.
Here’s how: First you need to have an IB-104 digital interface installed in your S1100 which provides a optical and electrical digital inputs and outputs in addition to the digital output that the S1100 has as standard.
Make up a complex stack of programs on the S1100EX that you think might be useful if it didn’t use up so many voices, and play it back through the digital output into the S1100’s IB-104 digital input while sampling digitally.
This should give you a sound with several layers but keeping the S1100’s full polyphony. You could do this just as easily through the analogue inputs and outputs adding whatever EQ and processing you need. I suspect that having two samplers around will throw up a lot of possibilities that we haven’t even begun to consider before.

S1100

The S1100, like the S1000 before it, comes with an operating system in ROM (Read Only Memory). This means that there is absolutely no possibility of losing Operating Systems and the Akai it an finding yourself with a very expensive paperweight. Updates to the operating system are supplied on floppy disk, and Akai nobly do this free of charge. Obviously it means better business for them if everyone who uses an Akai sampler has the latest operating system upgrades to show off to friends, relatives and would-be S1000 or S1100 owners. You can copy this operating system onto as many backup disks as you like but if the worst should come to the worst and you did lose it, then there is always the original version in ROM which will provide all the features you originally bought the unit for, but without the latest frilly bits.

Having to load the latest system from floppy disk may seem like a disadvantage, but actually it is an advantage because it enables you to store your own start up defaults. In my Hands On article about the S1000 I moaned about having to reset my favourite sampling parameters every time I started a sampling session, but a telephone call from Akai informed me of this feature which is either undocumented or is buried so deep in the manual that even an ostrich couldn’t find it. All you have to do is set the S1100 the way you like it, then save the operating system to disk. Parameters such as default mono/stereo sampling, sample rate and length will all be remembered and reset next time you boot up from this disk.

There is one slight snag involved. If you have the latest version of the operating system in ROM, then the S1100 won’t boot up from the floppy disk with your start up parameters recorded on it. You have to have a disk which is a later version than the ROM. Fortunately, all we S1100 owners will be wanting to upgrade to Version 2.0 soon so there won’t be any problem doing this. S1000 owners with the latest software in ROM may have to wait a little longer.

To operate the S1100 in conjunction with an S1100EX, by the way, you need to have Version 1.30 or later, either in ROM or on disk.

Re: Akai S1100 EX

2012-03-03 by K

Wow, thanks for all this info! Got the EX working perfectly now :)
You've helped alot of other EX users with this too, cheers.

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les Lambert <les_lmbrt@...> wrote:
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>
> I got through the other bits of this DLo and have joined a few bits more together, and there are EPROM images of V4.3 and the related one for the EX. They might me from the files section here, I often save things like that in case the site disappears. Now read on.......................
> 
> Mode 2
> 
> If anything, Mode 2, or ‘Voice Expansion’ mode, is even easier than Mode 1. This mode is for when you need to have thirty-two simultaneous voices on the go, or sixteen in stereo. This is usually the case when you are playing sampled piano. Without sufficient voices, the sustain pedal is very difficult to use without note-stealing becoming obvious. Switching into Mode 2 is as easy as switching into Mode 1. When you load some samples in from floppy disk, the S1100EX will load first, and the display will invert to tell you what’s going on, and then the S1100 will load the same sample data. When this is done, you basically have a thirty-two voice S1100 at your disposal. All editing procedures will be exactly the same as if you only had an S1100, and when you save data to disk only one set has to be saved because the data is the same in both units.
> Advanced Options
> 
> Keep in mind that the S1100EX adds a whole new S1100 to your rack and you’ll appreciate that feats like having two different digital effects running at the same time are quite logical. But you may wonder about a couple of other matters, so let me clarify...
> 
> Are you a Cue List user on the S1100? The Cue List allows samples to be entered against SMPTE timecode so that they can be played back in sync with a video without having to use an external sequencer or synchroniser of any kind. The S1100 can do this too, but the IB-108 SMPTE reader/generator card isn’t supplied as standard, as it is with the S1100.
> 
> As I said earlier, further S1100EXs can be added to the SCSI chain, but you only benefit from the added multitimbrality that Mode 1 offers. 
> Although your first S1100EX will add an extra sixteen voices in Mode 2, this doesn’t unfortunately mean that another one would add sixteen more. 
> The first sixteen notes would be played on the S1100 and the next sixteen on all subsequent S1100EXs.
> 
> An interesting trick that the S1100EX’s manual notes is digital mixing for resampling. This isn’t specifically an S1100EX feature since you could do it with an S1100 and a DAT machine, but it’s interesting nonetheless. 
> Here’s how: First you need to have an IB-104 digital interface installed in your S1100 which provides a optical and electrical digital inputs and outputs in addition to the digital output that the S1100 has as standard. 
> Make up a complex stack of programs on the S1100EX that you think might be useful if it didn’t use up so many voices, and play it back through the digital output into the S1100’s IB-104 digital input while sampling digitally. 
> This should give you a sound with several layers but keeping the S1100’s full polyphony. You could do this just as easily through the analogue inputs and outputs adding whatever EQ and processing you need. I suspect that having two samplers around will throw up a lot of possibilities that we haven’t even begun to consider before.
> 
> S1100
> 
> The S1100, like the S1000 before it, comes with an operating system in ROM (Read Only Memory). This means that there is absolutely no possibility of losing Operating Systems and the Akai it an finding yourself with a very expensive paperweight. Updates to the operating system are supplied on floppy disk, and Akai nobly do this free of charge. Obviously it means better business for them if everyone who uses an Akai sampler has the latest operating system upgrades to show off to friends, relatives and would-be S1000 or S1100 owners. You can copy this operating system onto as many backup disks as you like but if the worst should come to the worst and you did lose it, then there is always the original version in ROM which will provide all the features you originally bought the unit for, but without the latest frilly bits.
> 
> Having to load the latest system from floppy disk may seem like a disadvantage, but actually it is an advantage because it enables you to store your own start up defaults. In my Hands On article about the S1000 I moaned about having to reset my favourite sampling parameters every time I started a sampling session, but a telephone call from Akai informed me of this feature which is either undocumented or is buried so deep in the manual that even an ostrich couldn’t find it. All you have to do is set the S1100 the way you like it, then save the operating system to disk. Parameters such as default mono/stereo sampling, sample rate and length will all be remembered and reset next time you boot up from this disk.
> 
> There is one slight snag involved. If you have the latest version of the operating system in ROM, then the S1100 won’t boot up from the floppy disk with your start up parameters recorded on it. You have to have a disk which is a later version than the ROM. Fortunately, all we S1100 owners will be wanting to upgrade to Version 2.0 soon so there won’t be any problem doing this. S1000 owners with the latest software in ROM may have to wait a little longer.
> 
> To operate the S1100 in conjunction with an S1100EX, by the way, you need to have Version 1.30 or later, either in ROM or on disk.
>

Re: Akai S1100 EX

2012-03-03 by jo.menendez

Mr Lambert
   Thank you so much for your help, i spent a few hours trying to figure this out, without the information you provided there was not way that it would happen, but now it is working as it is suppose to. Thank you again
--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les Lambert <les_lmbrt@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I got through the other bits of this DLo and have joined a few bits more together, and there are EPROM images of V4.3 and the related one for the EX. They might me from the files section here, I often save things like that in case the site disappears. Now read on.......................
> 
> Mode 2
> 
> If anything, Mode 2, or ‘Voice Expansion’ mode, is even easier than Mode 1. This mode is for when you need to have thirty-two simultaneous voices on the go, or sixteen in stereo. This is usually the case when you are playing sampled piano. Without sufficient voices, the sustain pedal is very difficult to use without note-stealing becoming obvious. Switching into Mode 2 is as easy as switching into Mode 1. When you load some samples in from floppy disk, the S1100EX will load first, and the display will invert to tell you what’s going on, and then the S1100 will load the same sample data. When this is done, you basically have a thirty-two voice S1100 at your disposal. All editing procedures will be exactly the same as if you only had an S1100, and when you save data to disk only one set has to be saved because the data is the same in both units.
> Advanced Options
> 
> Keep in mind that the S1100EX adds a whole new S1100 to your rack and you’ll appreciate that feats like having two different digital effects running at the same time are quite logical. But you may wonder about a couple of other matters, so let me clarify...
> 
> Are you a Cue List user on the S1100? The Cue List allows samples to be entered against SMPTE timecode so that they can be played back in sync with a video without having to use an external sequencer or synchroniser of any kind. The S1100 can do this too, but the IB-108 SMPTE reader/generator card isn’t supplied as standard, as it is with the S1100.
> 
> As I said earlier, further S1100EXs can be added to the SCSI chain, but you only benefit from the added multitimbrality that Mode 1 offers. 
> Although your first S1100EX will add an extra sixteen voices in Mode 2, this doesn’t unfortunately mean that another one would add sixteen more. 
> The first sixteen notes would be played on the S1100 and the next sixteen on all subsequent S1100EXs.
> 
> An interesting trick that the S1100EX’s manual notes is digital mixing for resampling. This isn’t specifically an S1100EX feature since you could do it with an S1100 and a DAT machine, but it’s interesting nonetheless. 
> Here’s how: First you need to have an IB-104 digital interface installed in your S1100 which provides a optical and electrical digital inputs and outputs in addition to the digital output that the S1100 has as standard. 
> Make up a complex stack of programs on the S1100EX that you think might be useful if it didn’t use up so many voices, and play it back through the digital output into the S1100’s IB-104 digital input while sampling digitally. 
> This should give you a sound with several layers but keeping the S1100’s full polyphony. You could do this just as easily through the analogue inputs and outputs adding whatever EQ and processing you need. I suspect that having two samplers around will throw up a lot of possibilities that we haven’t even begun to consider before.
> 
> S1100
> 
> The S1100, like the S1000 before it, comes with an operating system in ROM (Read Only Memory). This means that there is absolutely no possibility of losing Operating Systems and the Akai it an finding yourself with a very expensive paperweight. Updates to the operating system are supplied on floppy disk, and Akai nobly do this free of charge. Obviously it means better business for them if everyone who uses an Akai sampler has the latest operating system upgrades to show off to friends, relatives and would-be S1000 or S1100 owners. You can copy this operating system onto as many backup disks as you like but if the worst should come to the worst and you did lose it, then there is always the original version in ROM which will provide all the features you originally bought the unit for, but without the latest frilly bits.
> 
> Having to load the latest system from floppy disk may seem like a disadvantage, but actually it is an advantage because it enables you to store your own start up defaults. In my Hands On article about the S1000 I moaned about having to reset my favourite sampling parameters every time I started a sampling session, but a telephone call from Akai informed me of this feature which is either undocumented or is buried so deep in the manual that even an ostrich couldn’t find it. All you have to do is set the S1100 the way you like it, then save the operating system to disk. Parameters such as default mono/stereo sampling, sample rate and length will all be remembered and reset next time you boot up from this disk.
> 
> There is one slight snag involved. If you have the latest version of the operating system in ROM, then the S1100 won’t boot up from the floppy disk with your start up parameters recorded on it. You have to have a disk which is a later version than the ROM. Fortunately, all we S1100 owners will be wanting to upgrade to Version 2.0 soon so there won’t be any problem doing this. S1000 owners with the latest software in ROM may have to wait a little longer.
> 
> To operate the S1100 in conjunction with an S1100EX, by the way, you need to have Version 1.30 or later, either in ROM or on disk.
>

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