I don't think of the p3 as exclusively a performance device...some of the confusion with the more esoteric functions, I think, has to do with the fact that the documentation really doesn't go far enough in explaining how exactly certain of the functions work, and that there isn't enough explanation about how exactly to accomplish certain tasks. This is understandable given the fact that Colin isn't a big company - he's just one guy who put this together. In actuality, the P3 is quite intuitive to use. I think I'm pretty close to having a handle on it, and I've just been using it for a couple of weeks. There are other sequencers that do some things more easily and intuitively - I've been running into that with my Polymorph, which is also 'new'. It has some advantages when it comes to setting up polyrhythmic sequences, and triggering sequences. However, the Polymorph only does a small fraction of the things that the P3 can do - there is no real comparison overall. When you first get it, I'd recommend using Paul's tutorials. They're pretty short, but I think should get you started pretty quickly. -------------- Original message -------------- > the discussions going on have led me to some goofy conclussions about this > instrument even though i dont have one yet. some of the functions described > sound an awful lot like the functions found in the old oberheim Cyclones. A > tasty beast to be sure but the UI was despicable considering the depth involved. > Are we approaching that level here?? some of the functions also sound like they > are better suited for a computer device rather than a tabletop sequencer that is > a "performance" device. or am i wrong on this?? was it designed more for studio > work? doesn't matter to me... i'm still going to get one, but it just seems to > me that the machine is getting so deep that it will be impossible to figure out > what is going on from the limited space allowed for info transmission on the > front panel. When it comes to shuffling parts around, wasn't that once the > domain of computer based sequencers?? and now it's being put it a black box??... > how is the average numb nut going to be able to keep track of what's going on? > That said, i can't wait to get my hands on a machine that seems to be tailor > made to reinforce my "how the hell did that happen" approach to composition. > LMAO!!! > kind regards > john duval > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > If you have a pattern where aux events are set up to influence the last > step > > and time base, how is the length of a repeat determined? > > A combined function based on relative humidity, phase of the moon and the > length of a piece of string... > > > I have a pattern > > which takes quite awhile to reach the end at step 16, and this is what I > was > > hoping one iteration would be, but that's not the case. > > Did that make any sense? > > A little... > With chg=B in your playlist, the length of a repeat should be 1 gbar. > With chg=P it's a little more complicated - the next repeat starts when the > pattern is reset at it's last step (based on a separate count of 'position' > for the random direction modes). > If the length of the pattern is getting screwed around by aux events, it may > be hard to predict when it's going to end if chg=P. > Disclaimer: IIRC > > Cheers, > Colin f > > > > > ________________________________________________ > Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/analogue-sequencer/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > analogue-sequencer-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] question about pattern/approach philosophy
2004-07-06 by implode7@comcast.net
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