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Re: P3 newb questions

2005-10-05 by amwgroups2003

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@s...> 
wrote:
> maybe you're the man for another sequencer i've been dreaming up 
in my 
> head. for performing live techno/dance music, it's hard to find a 
> sequencer better than a small army of MMT-8s. if someone made an 
> "MMT-8000"... more memory, more patterns, tactile buttons, solid 
OS, 
> plenty of mutable tracks, etc... i think i'd put that higher on 
_my_ 
> priority list than a P3.
> 
The P3 isn't really like an MMT-8 because each track is only 
monophonic (barring aux event weirdness).  If you're looking for a 
super MMT-8, get a Q-80EX.  They are the fuckin bomb of mutable-
track sequencers - you get 32 tracks, 2 MIDI outs etc.  But you 
can't change patterns on the fly, or compose new patterns while it's 
still running.  That's why there's stuff like the P3.

> i guess it's capable of many of the same things as a MAQ16/3, SQ-
16, 
> or mobius... huh? that just didn't occur to me when i first saw 
the 
> pictures.
> 
The Moebius is monophonic, so you're already getting heaps more with 
the P3.  The MAQ16/3 i'm not familiar with.  The SQ16... well i just 
sold mine.  It's a great drum sequencer, like a TR-606, but it 
doesn't have shuffle and it doesn't have triplets, which really 
sucks.  It also has some very fiddly and annoying "features" like 
accidentally hitting a button while it's playing will stop the 
sequence or totally send you off on a wild goose chase of crap you 
didn't want to happen.  The P3 can do most of the cool things that 
an SQ16 can do ("rotate" = aux events) and it's heaps more drunken-
composer-proof.

That said, you only get 8 tracks which imho isn't enough for drums 
unless you want to use it solely for drums.  If you could afford one 
for drums and one for melody, cool... but one by itself won't be The 
One True Sequencer if you're trying to do techno.  Then again, i've 
only ever heard of one One True Sequencer candidate and that's the 
Yamaha RS7000.

I've never spent more than about us$400 on anything in my studio, 
this was my first (and last) big expense and i gotta say it was 
worth every cent.  It is BEYOND cool that we are get real-time 
support online, constant firmware updates etc.  It's so easy to use 
i can get non-musicians in my room to put together a pattern and 
they "click" almost straight away.

As far as your drum problem goes...  I've got the same problem.  
Most people i've talked to recommend the Korg ES-1.  If you want to 
spend stupid money there's the XBase09, MachineDrum etc. but basic 
samples cover 99% of what you need to do with drums in techno so i 
wouldn't spend the money unless it's really burning a hole.

Hope that helps
Al

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