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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Chords on P3

2008-05-06 by DB

Hi Zed,
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Zed Velkovich wrote:

 >>3P is already polyphonic sequencer,
I'm not sure if you are aware or not, but the P3 didn't start as a 
Polyphonic Step Sequencer.  It started as
a Monophonic Step Sequencer.  Polyphony was added later. I remember when 
it was added and I remember
my exitement when hearing about it.   I myself, several years ago 
requested for
an improvement in utilizing the Chords with the P3 similar to what you 
have requested and it was shot down
then due to code space.  I'm sure there is even less code space now then 
2 years ago.


 >>why do I need to spend memory and tiiiimmmeee for 3 auxes, to get one 
chord (how for 5-7 note chord)?
Because that is how the P3 stores it's information.  As indicated above, 
the P3 was originally designed for Monophonic
use and then it was determined that if one used the Aux parts  to hold 
other Notes that one could create Chords and
hence P3 Polyphony was created.   The other reason is because with the 
limited code space, that is how it is.  He would
have to restructure they way the P3 stores its information and uses it.  
Sometimes things are very easy to say in words
but when it gets to actual coding around the current design, they can be 
very difficult.
If you want chords/polyphony on a track with the P3,
then these are steps to achieve it.  If you don't want to spend the 
memory or tiiiimmmmmeeeee then
you can stick to monophonic sequences?   For a 6-8 note chord, you need 
to redirect your Auxes from another Track
to the Track that you want the additional Polyphony from for notes 6, 7, 
& 8 ( I believe Aux A will be Redirect
to Track and then Aux B, C, D are for your chords.).  1 -5 can be done 
on the original track.

 >>I would rather use auxes for midi delays, echoes, than just for chord.
I as well.   Thank goodness that Colin added the ability to redirect Aux 
to other Tracks.  So for example,
you can use Track 1 to create a 5 note chord, Track 2 to create add  3 
more  notes to Tracks1's  Chord, and Track 3 to have
it's Aux' redirected to Track 1 to do their funky goodness.      I think 
now you can start to understand why I have
2 P3's (as soon as I build my 2nd one).   There's more then I want to do 
than is available on a track. So you
double up or tripple up your Aux's and just Sequence less Synths from 
each P3.  So instead of sequencing 8 synths
from my P3, I'll be Sequencing 4 synths from each P3.  Would I like to 
do all of this on 1 P3, yep!  But I don't think
CPU and ROM upgrades is something he's going to do.

 >>It was the same with drone in the begining, p3 didnt have 13 lenght 
nither.
Same with Polyphony.  And to be honest, i'm fairly confident the code to 
add length of 13/drone is MUCH smaller then adding the Chord inputting
method that you detailed.  Somewhere, the P3 will have to store the type 
of chords you want. That will eat away RAM and/or ROM depending on
how it's implemented.

 >>Melodic part of all my music that I do, is from chords and drones and 
I love using P3, just piss me off big time, to set chords from auxes all 
the time.
 >>My old QY70 trigers some fat chords and riffs so good that I had to 
take it back from my little brother that I gave for present lont time ago.
 >>I also use sx chorader for chords because setting an auxes for chords 
is just nightmare.

Whew.. at least you have some work arounds.  The rest of us just sit 
down at our P3 and program them in or input them with a keyboard,
as I described them in the earlier keyboard..
I also think you can do something similiar with the MC-909 if you are 
looking for another method as well.

 >>P3 needs chords step pattern and chords scale menu because it can do 
it easily.
I'm guessing this statement is incorrect.  If there isn't enough code 
space to put this, it is very difficult to add it.  Try adding
water to a full glass and see what happens.  Something has to come 
out.    I'm guessing that what you want will be delayed
to the P4.

I would love it on the P3 as well, but I'm just trying to be realistic 
as to what will most likely come out.    Definitely count me as
a Plus 5 (for the 5 that we've got here between the heads) for this 
feature, but it doesn't look like it going to be something that could
be implmented until the P4.


Cheers,
Dave

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