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P3 v3.88

P3 v3.88

2004-02-08 by colinfraser_com

Folks,

Firmware v3.88 beta (in Yahoo files now) adds 4 aux events for 
sending additional note messages.
This makes P3 up to 5 note polyphonic per pattern, 40 notes in total.

There are 4 note events:
 - aux note abs
 - aux note rel
 - aux note abs Xd
 - aux note rel Xd

The 'abs' events add an extra note on, specified as a note number 
the same as for the primary note on a pattern step.
The 'rel' events take a bi-polar value that specifies a semitone 
offset from the primary note. This is very nice for 'chord memory' 
type effects - try setting the same offset on each step using Sculpt 
for a couple of extra notes, then the primary note defines the root 
of the chord.
The first two events are subject to playlist and part transpose, and 
force to scale.
The 'Xd' versions are not.

Have fun...
Colin f

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.88

2004-02-09 by Paul Nagle

Just a quick note to say a demo of the Aux events mode is in the usual
place - P3_Stoned27. It uses a single track to create pads on a
Novation Nova with an incrementing note as part of the chord. The
chord is slightly supplemented by a Roland V-Synth taking all its
notes from the pad track and a couple of simple sequences noodling
along with very little flashy stuff, just a few gates added by
probability here and there.

There's another track P3_IncDecprobability that features two sequences
panned hard left and right. As more notes are added to one sequence,
they are removed from the other and so on. Just use increasing
probability on one track, decreasing on the other. It makes quite a
nice effect, I think.

Paul

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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Clever Thing

2004-02-18 by Andy Wilson

Paul,


> 
> Tell me if I should shut up or if you like this kinda stuff.. 8-)
> 

We love this stuff. Your posts are always (well usually :->)) very 
informative and give great food for thought and more ideas for 
tweaking madness.

Keep it up.

Perhaps you should take the load from Colin and write the aux 
function section of the user manual <g>

All the best

Andy
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Clever Thing

2004-02-18 by Paul Nagle

List's been quiet for a while so I thought I'd tell you about
something I discovered that is cool

I recently incorporated my Sherman Filterbank into my live setup
(processing the Vermona PerFourmer to give me a little more variety
from its smooth Moog tones). The Sherman has an odd MIDI
implementation but the P3 is really well suited to doing stuff
flexibly and, with a bit of lateral thinking, I soon found a way to
accomplish what I wanted. I thought it might serve as an example that
you might enjoy - if not, delete me!

To explain further - the Sherman's envelopes are designed to be
triggered via audio signals. However, this function can be overriden
by sending it a couple of (specific) MIDI notes. The envelopes may
then be triggered by sending it two different MIDI notes each time you
want each of them to fire. 

So to sequence the Sherman's envelopes at the same time as the track
for which I am generating notes to be processed, I need to do the
following:

* Create a track for the Sherman with all its notes set to F4. (this
triggers the Sherman's ADSR)
* Create an Aux note for every note pitched at A4 (abs) to trigger the
AR.
* Set X to ON for every note to prevent transposes switching off the
note triggering by accident.
* Set all the gates to OFF.

What's this you say? It won't play!
Well, now you must set another Aux event to grab all Gates from the
track playing the synth (the one passing through the Sherman). Voila -
when the synth plays, the Sherman plays. Nice tight envelopes, even if
with a slow attack from the synth - something not possible with audio
triggering.

So far I've used two auxes (abs note and gate grab). I have two left
that I can use to either tinker with the MIDI controllable parameters
OR I could automatically switch off the audio triggering. 
Remember I mentioned that this required a couple of MIDI notes to be
sent initially to tell the Sherman to expect MIDI-only triggering?
Well, I could have a couple of steps of another Aux send these out as
abs notes then I could turn them off manually. Or I could do something
clever using the fact that Aux D has an accumulator. 

Now supposing this accumulator could be told to reach a certain limit
and then stay at that limit? We could make sure the first time it
played it sent our notes and that subsequent passes would place the
notes way out of range and stay there, playing no further part. There
are other ways of doing this too - but that's just food for thought.

Actually I'd probably be quite happy doing it manually just once each
power up and using the auxes for groovy filter tweaks. I only
mentioned this option because it's an example of just how flexible
this little beast is.

Tell me if I should shut up or if you like this kinda stuff.. 8-)

Paul
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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Clever Thing

2004-02-18 by bgerkes

on 18-02-2004 12:38, Paul Nagle at softroom@btinternet.com wrote:

Bloody hell! How many smokes did you have before figuring this out?

:-))))

You are right, this machine gives the person handling it lots and lots of
room to be creative! Cool Paul!

Boele
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> List's been quiet for a while so I thought I'd tell you about
> something I discovered that is cool
> 
> I recently incorporated my Sherman Filterbank into my live setup
> (processing the Vermona PerFourmer to give me a little more variety
> from its smooth Moog tones). The Sherman has an odd MIDI
> implementation but the P3 is really well suited to doing stuff
> flexibly and, with a bit of lateral thinking, I soon found a way to
> accomplish what I wanted. I thought it might serve as an example that
> you might enjoy - if not, delete me!
> 
> To explain further - the Sherman's envelopes are designed to be
> triggered via audio signals. However, this function can be overriden
> by sending it a couple of (specific) MIDI notes. The envelopes may
> then be triggered by sending it two different MIDI notes each time you
> want each of them to fire.
> 
> So to sequence the Sherman's envelopes at the same time as the track
> for which I am generating notes to be processed, I need to do the
> following:
> 
> * Create a track for the Sherman with all its notes set to F4. (this
> triggers the Sherman's ADSR)
> * Create an Aux note for every note pitched at A4 (abs) to trigger the
> AR.
> * Set X to ON for every note to prevent transposes switching off the
> note triggering by accident.
> * Set all the gates to OFF.
> 
> What's this you say? It won't play!
> Well, now you must set another Aux event to grab all Gates from the
> track playing the synth (the one passing through the Sherman). Voila -
> when the synth plays, the Sherman plays. Nice tight envelopes, even if
> with a slow attack from the synth - something not possible with audio
> triggering.
> 
> So far I've used two auxes (abs note and gate grab). I have two left
> that I can use to either tinker with the MIDI controllable parameters
> OR I could automatically switch off the audio triggering.
> Remember I mentioned that this required a couple of MIDI notes to be
> sent initially to tell the Sherman to expect MIDI-only triggering?
> Well, I could have a couple of steps of another Aux send these out as
> abs notes then I could turn them off manually. Or I could do something
> clever using the fact that Aux D has an accumulator.
> 
> Now supposing this accumulator could be told to reach a certain limit
> and then stay at that limit? We could make sure the first time it
> played it sent our notes and that subsequent passes would place the
> notes way out of range and stay there, playing no further part. There
> are other ways of doing this too - but that's just food for thought.
> 
> Actually I'd probably be quite happy doing it manually just once each
> power up and using the auxes for groovy filter tweaks. I only
> mentioned this option because it's an example of just how flexible
> this little beast is.
> 
> Tell me if I should shut up or if you like this kinda stuff.. 8-)
> 
> Paul
> ---
> Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
> Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Clever Thing

2004-02-18 by Mark Pulver

Paul Nagle (03:38 am 2/18/2004) wrote:

 >Tell me if I should shut up or if you like this kinda stuff.. 8-)

NEVER!

Thanks Paul!


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark

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