Analogue-sequencer

Colin,

One thing you can you to help members avoid spam is to advise them to create 
a Yahoo account (this is just a member profile, not an email account unless 
one is wanted) from which to join groups.

When this is done, you don't have to provide *any* public information. Yahoo 
keeps your real email address, and that's it.

Thereupon you go can to a page of options and deselect all the spammy stuff 
in the world that they would like to send you. It's very satisfying!

If they subscribe and unsubscribe via email, yes, they will get spam because 
they haven't done this step, and they're automatically opted-in to ad mail. 
Few people use direct email commands because they like the convenience of 
switching email options at Yahoo.

Yahoo could certainly be better at explaining to people how the system works. 
Overwriting the automatic welcome message that goes out with your own is a 
good opportunity to remind folks to check their options for receiving ad mail, 
as is using the group description.

I've found that it's more fun to moderate by approving new members than to 
read and moderate first-mails. New members these days have to write a sentence 
proving that they're not a spambot. You'll know a little about them and hear 
all sorts of glowing remarks about P3 that way!
 

--Amanda
  SynthSights! "it's not about the gear"
  Come join us! Info. at: www.synthsights.net

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> Yahoo could certainly be better at explaining to people how 
> the system works. 

Indeed. 
I didn't know about the opt-in to ad mail for mail subscribers...

> I've found that it's more fun to moderate by approving new 
> members than to 
> read and moderate first-mails. New members these days have to 
> write a sentence 
> proving that they're not a spambot. You'll know a little 
> about them and hear 
> all sorts of glowing remarks about P3 that way!

I thought the new member approve might put people off who just wanted a
casual browse through the archives.
The graphic of a word that must be entered to join the group *should* stop
spam-bots, but maybe they are getting smarter, or they just have some dumb
bastard manually joining groups to spam...

Cheers,
Colin f

Amanda,

> When this is done, you don't have to provide *any* public information. Yahoo
> keeps your real email address, and that's it.
> 
> Thereupon you go can to a page of options and deselect all the spammy stuff
> in the world that they would like to send you. It's very satisfying!

Sadfly, you still agree that Yahoo have the right to use your address and
hand it onto third parties that they see fit. Regardless of what options you
tick/untick on the options.

> If they subscribe and unsubscribe via email, yes, they will get spam because
> they haven't done this step, and they're automatically opted-in to ad mail.

This doesn't stop Spam hitting the list.

> Yahoo could certainly be better at explaining to people how the system works.

But they would then loose revenue from people who pay to get e-mail lists.

Just my twopenneth.
Paul

Colin,

> I thought the new member approve might put people off who just wanted a
> casual browse through the archives.

Or give the 'casual member' a full list of email addresses.

> The graphic of a word that must be entered to join the group *should* stop
> spam-bots, but maybe they are getting smarter, or they just have some dumb
> bastard manually joining groups to spam...

Someone opens a hotmail account (as in this case), joins several dozen
groups with lots of members and sends out one mail to them all, then drops
the hotmail account.

Paul

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, cikira@c... wrote:
> 
> Colin,
> 
> One thing you can you to help members avoid spam is to advise them
to create 
> a Yahoo account (this is just a member profile, not an email account
unless 
> one is wanted) from which to join groups.
> 
> When this is done, you don't have to provide *any* public
information. Yahoo 
> keeps your real email address, and that's it.
> 
> Thereupon you go can to a page of options and deselect all the
spammy stuff 
> in the world that they would like to send you. It's very satisfying!
> 
> If they subscribe and unsubscribe via email, yes, they will get spam
because 
> they haven't done this step, and they're automatically opted-in to
ad mail. 
> Few people use direct email commands because they like the
convenience of 
> switching email options at Yahoo.
> 
> Yahoo could certainly be better at explaining to people how the
system works. 
> Overwriting the automatic welcome message that goes out with your
own is a 
> good opportunity to remind folks to check their options for
receiving ad mail, 
> as is using the group description.
> 
> I've found that it's more fun to moderate by approving new members
than to 
> read and moderate first-mails. New members these days have to write
a sentence 
> proving that they're not a spambot. You'll know a little about them
and hear 
> all sorts of glowing remarks about P3 that way!
>  
> 
> --Amanda
>   SynthSights! "it's not about the gear"
>   Come join us! Info. at: www.synthsights.net
> 
>  _                                   www.cikira.com
> |_) _  _||\/| _  _ ._         www.redmoon-music.com
> | \(/_(_||  |(_)(_)| | ~~~ evolutionary electronica



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