Analogue-sequencer

Colin,

Is there a way to transpose running patterns with a keyboard on the P3?
Let's say you have created a pattern which is running nicely (and they 
all do, don't they? :-)).

And assume there is a fixed keyposition for every pattern. Then hitting 
a key on the attached keyboard transposes the pattern to that key 
(preferably at step one of the pattern or directly).

That would be a killer feature for me, specially in live situations.

I finally have time to really dive into the machine and this is one of 
the first things I encounter.

I know I know, there is for sure no space left in the OS, but I'll try 
anyway...

Boele (saving for the P4, if you promise to build this request into it 
:-))

> Is there a way to transpose running patterns with a keyboard 
> on the P3?
> Let's say you have created a pattern which is running nicely 
> (and they 
> all do, don't they? :-)).
> 
> And assume there is a fixed keyposition for every pattern. 
> Then hitting 
> a key on the attached keyboard transposes the pattern to that key 
> (preferably at step one of the pattern or directly).
> 
> That would be a killer feature for me, specially in live situations.

That's not to difficult a thing to do. An aux event could grab the most
recent input note from a midi source, and transpose to that key.
It would need some way of defining the 'base key' that represented no
transpose.
It would be trickier to implement it independently of an aux event, since
there isn't any space to store a transpose input configuration for each
pattern.
Also, if you wanted to transpose different tracks using input notes on
different midi channels, it could take more effort.

Cheers,
Colin f

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:44:44 +0100, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>That's not to difficult a thing to do. An aux event could grab the most
>recent input note from a midi source, and transpose to that key.
>It would need some way of defining the 'base key' that represented no
>transpose.
>It would be trickier to implement it independently of an aux event, since
>there isn't any space to store a transpose input configuration for each
>pattern.

How about making the "Part Transpose" function directly updateable via
MIDI input? So you would hit the xpose softkey and instead of just
turning the data entry, you could hit a MIDI note. Use Middle C as
zero maybe?

>Also, if you wanted to transpose different tracks using input notes on
>different midi channels, it could take more effort.

A degree of complication probably best avoided. For now... 8)

BTW some potential company name ideas plucked from Luciferous
Logolepsy

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Paul
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Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music
Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
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> How about making the "Part Transpose" function directly updateable via
> MIDI input? So you would hit the xpose softkey and instead of just
> turning the data entry, you could hit a MIDI note. Use Middle C as
> zero maybe?

That's do-able - but somewhat clunky if you want to 'play' the
transposition.

I realised you can already transpose a pattern by keyboard input - you just
set up an aux event to transpose by another track, then put a dummy pattern
on the other track and use play mode record. Easy ;-)
Plus you only transpose the notes you activate the aux on, and can record a
pattern of transpose that lasts a few bars if you make the tbase on the
dummy pattern a long one.

Cheers,
Colin f

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:19:08 +0100, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>That's do-able - but somewhat clunky if you want to 'play' the
>transposition.

Yeah, you're right. I guess I've changed over the years from wanting
to transpose stuff to, well, not. I'm way too choatic when I do it and
other musicians trying to play along complain.. 8)

>I realised you can already transpose a pattern by keyboard input - you just
>set up an aux event to transpose by another track, then put a dummy pattern
>on the other track and use play mode record. Easy ;-)
>Plus you only transpose the notes you activate the aux on, and can record a
>pattern of transpose that lasts a few bars if you make the tbase on the
>dummy pattern a long one.

Time for more tutorials. The bad news is I can't get even the shortest
video tutorials small enough to be downloadable. If anyone knows of a
format I can convert them to that would be appropriate, let me know.
I've started making videos of about 4 mins long going through various
aspects of operation but I'm sorta stuck with what to do with them...

Maybe when I have enough, I should just copy them to blank DVDs and
send them out for folks to copy and pass around?

Paul
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Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music
Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com