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greetings. newbie here. I am a born-again hardware freak wondering 
about building a P3 kit with case. I want to use it mostly to control 
an Alesis A6 as the onboard seq is too damned fiddly.

How many hours did it take you guys to build a p3? Assuming a 
resaonably good technical knowledge and soldering skills...

I also wonder if anyone in the UK has sourced buttons and knobs via 
CPC or similar - I guess I could save a few quid this way?? Any reason 
not to do this

Richard

> I am a born-again hardware freak

The best kind.
Reading this months Sound On Sound, I noted with sadness only a single
review of an actual 'instrument'.
The world is going soft...

> How many hours did it take you guys to build a p3? Assuming a 
> resaonably good technical knowledge and soldering skills...

I'll need to leave that question to someone who hasn't built up callouses on
60+ P3 builds.
 
> I also wonder if anyone in the UK has sourced buttons and knobs via 
> CPC or similar - I guess I could save a few quid this way?? 
> Any reason 
> not to do this

I strongly recommend the production keys. They are very high quality, and I
think fairly priced against the un-legended equivalents you could buy at
Farnell etc. I spotted this page recently...
http://www.maltron.com/maltron-cherry-mx.html
25 years, and not one failed Cherry MX key.

Cheers,
Colin f

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, funkycholrton wrote:

> greetings. newbie here. I am a born-again hardware freak wondering
> about building a P3 kit with case. I want to use it mostly to control
> an Alesis A6 as the onboard seq is too damned fiddly.

*drool*

*that's* going to sound *fantastic!*

okay, answering your questions... for me, if i hadn't made silly mistakes
such as putting LEDs in backwards, it would've probably taken me about 10
hours total (give or take a couple). this also assumes you have all the
bits to begin with.

the trickiest part, i found, was putting the plugs on the 16-way cable.
everything else was fairly easy.

enjoy!
f.

bleep.
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thanks bleep, you said, "this also assumes you have all the
bits to begin with."

do you mean there are other bits I need apart from the kit, box and caps?? I didn't realise that. If so please tell me what else would i need to sort out

you're right btw, the Andromeda really is an extraordinary synth, I have  digi synths I like too, and an evolver, but that's the one which really gives me the chills and makes me lose hours in the world of modulation. But I sense that without a hands-on sequencer I am missing something and I won't really get the best out of it

Richard 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bleep 
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  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] man hours


  On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, funkycholrton wrote:

  > greetings. newbie here. I am a born-again hardware freak wondering
  > about building a P3 kit with case. I want to use it mostly to control
  > an Alesis A6 as the onboard seq is too damned fiddly.

  *drool*

  *that's* going to sound *fantastic!*

  okay, answering your questions... for me, if i hadn't made silly mistakes
  such as putting LEDs in backwards, it would've probably taken me about 10
  hours total (give or take a couple). this also assumes you have all the
  bits to begin with.

  the trickiest part, i found, was putting the plugs on the 16-way cable.
  everything else was fairly easy.

  enjoy!
  f.

  bleep.
  out.

  ---
  http://leichenfeld.iuma.com
  http://thirdwavecollective.com


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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Richard Scott wrote:

> thanks bleep, you said, "this also assumes you have all the
> bits to begin with."
>
> do you mean there are other bits I need apart from the kit, box and
> caps?? I didn't realise that. If so please tell me what else would i
> need to sort out

heh... yeah. :) the kit comes with the cpu, pcbs, and (i think) a couple
of multimec switches. the version you're getting also includes the keys
and the case, which is good.

but you have to get everything else.

all the resistors, capacitors, ics, cabling, etc. etc. that you have to
get on your own. you're in the UK, yes? colin has a BOM (bill of
matierials) that you can use to order what you need from the distribs.
over there.

when i said "assuming you have all the bits," i was referring to my
adventures over here (the US) trying to source compatible parts from
different distributors. most of the time i got what i needed, but i went
back and forth a number of times trying to get the right stuff. so i
started with what worked and tacked on the replacements for what didn't as
they came in. some things i just couldn't get in the US, like those
multimec switches for the step and upper knob function selection.

i created a US BOM to save other colonial builders from the troubles i
had, and colin has kindly updated it to reflect the new board
revisions. but his standard BOM should work if you're in the UK.

> But I sense that without a hands-on sequencer I am missing something and
> I won't really get the best out of it

my suggestion: hang plastic sheets on the walls of your studio before
hooking up your p3 to the andromeda... otherwise, you'll have all kinds of
nasty stains on the walls after your brain explodes due to the incredible
awesomeness of the sounds you'll be making. :)

enjoy,
fred.

bleep.
out.

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> > I am a born-again hardware freak
> 
> The best kind.
> Reading this months Sound On Sound, I noted with sadness only a 
single
> review of an actual 'instrument'.
> The world is going soft...

Don't worry... they'll all go 'hard' again in a few years time after 
they've sold us all the good boxes cheap on ebay!

Phil

dunno what happened there - I sent this email over a week ago and it only just appeared ??

R

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard Scott 
  To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] man hours


  thanks bleep, you said, "this also assumes you have all the
  bits to begin with."

  do you mean there are other bits I need apart from the kit, box and caps?? I didn't realise that. If so please tell me what else would i need to sort out

  you're right btw, the Andromeda really is an extraordinary synth, I have  digi synths I like too, and an evolver, but that's the one which really gives me the chills and makes me lose hours in the world of modulation. But I sense that without a hands-on sequencer I am missing something and I won't really get the best out of it

  Richard 


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: bleep 
    To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:31 PM
    Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] man hours


    On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, funkycholrton wrote:

    > greetings. newbie here. I am a born-again hardware freak wondering
    > about building a P3 kit with case. I want to use it mostly to control
    > an Alesis A6 as the onboard seq is too damned fiddly.

    *drool*

    *that's* going to sound *fantastic!*

    okay, answering your questions... for me, if i hadn't made silly mistakes
    such as putting LEDs in backwards, it would've probably taken me about 10
    hours total (give or take a couple). this also assumes you have all the
    bits to begin with.

    the trickiest part, i found, was putting the plugs on the 16-way cable.
    everything else was fairly easy.

    enjoy!
    f.

    bleep.
    out.

    ---
    http://leichenfeld.iuma.com
    http://thirdwavecollective.com


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